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Sorry, I thought you had something relevant to say. My bad.JohnR7 said:I am talking about the recent artical in Time magazine in regards to his love letters.
It seems among other thing he was interested in a mother and her daughter at the same time.
http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,1211594,00.html
I am not going to judge him BUT if he were found to be a sexually immoral person, that would have a great deal of impact upon how much we can trust what he says.Jase said:And what bearing would that have on his scientific or mathematical contributions?
JohnR7 said:I am not going to judge him BUT if he were found to be a sexually immoral person, that would have a great deal of impact upon how much we can trust what he says.
1 Cor. 5:9-11
I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. [10] Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. [11] But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner--not even to eat with such a person.
The point is that light has no fellowship with darkness. People claim not to "believe" in God, but really they just want to life a life of sin and they want to violate the moral laws of God. So to try to justify themselves they will try to claim that there is no God and that they will NOT be held accountable. But they will be held accountable.
Numbers 32:23
But if you do not do so, then take note, you have sinned against the Lord; and be sure your sin will find you out.
If the subject of his work were morality like Jimmy Swaggart and too many others to name here, maybe, but otherwise, I still fail to see any relevance.JohnR7 said:I am not going to judge him BUT if he were found to be a sexually immoral person, that would have a great deal of impact upon how much we can trust what he says.
1 Cor. 5:9-11
I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. [10] Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. [11] But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner--not even to eat with such a person.
The point is that light has no fellowship with darkness. People claim not to "believe" in God, but really they just want to life a life of sin and they want to violate the moral laws of God. So to try to justify themselves they will try to claim that there is no God and that they will NOT be held accountable. But they will be held accountable.
Numbers 32:23
But if you do not do so, then take note, you have sinned against the Lord; and be sure your sin will find you out.
Beastt said:Admittedly, I'm not well versed enough to present a complete challenge to this idea. But I will say that a review of phase diagrams across a range of temperatures and pressures, sufficient to present triple-points for water, would tend to suggest that there is a fundamental flaw in your reasoning.
One of the barriers to boiling and vaporization of water is atmospheric pressure. This is why as we gain altitude, (and lose pressure), the boiling point of water drops. Boiling point is roughly defined as the temperature where saturated vapor pressure equals the surrounding atmospheric pressure. So as the atmospheric pressure is released, the vapor density of the water begins to exceed that of the atmospheric pressure. It seems reasonable that this is why a man in space, without a pressurized suit, would experience boiling of his blood even though he is not subjected to high temperatures.
I may be overlooking or misunderstanding some part of this. If so, I welcome some clarification.
And-U-Say said:Just to be a jerk, it is not the force of 14.7 psi that keeps water liquid on the face of the earth. If we were to remove all of the oxygen, nitrogen, argon, and carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, the oceans would not boil nor even simmer (although life would be in big trouble). It is water vapor in equilibrium with the liquid water that keeps water in the liquid form, so to speak (that and temperature). A glass of water is perfectly content to remain calm and liquid in an appropriate atmosphere of water vapor alone.
Ideal gas law and all.
not much, the rough average between liquid and gas volume at atmospheric pressure is around 1000:1 so maybe 1/15000 of the water would be necessary to generate 1psi.Loudmouth said:How much water would have to turn to vapor (ie boil) before the Earth's atmosphere was 1 psi?
JohnR7 said:I am not going to judge him BUT if he were found to be a sexually immoral person, that would have a great deal of impact upon how much we can trust what he says.
1 Cor. 5:9-11
I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. [10] Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. [11] But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner--not even to eat with such a person.
JohnR7 said:The point is that light has no fellowship with darkness. People claim not to "believe" in God, but really they just want to life a life of sin and they want to violate the moral laws of God. So to try to justify themselves they will try to claim that there is no God and that they will NOT be held accountable. But they will be held accountable.
Numbers 32:23
But if you do not do so, then take note, you have sinned against the Lord; and be sure your sin will find you out.
Loudmouth said:How much water would have to turn to vapor (ie boil) before the Earth's atmosphere was 1 psi?
crazy question, but where does the 32 come from, and what setup are you using?And-U-Say said:32x1/14.7 = about 2.2 feet. However... thats at 100F. The average temperature of the earth is much lower, about 70F (actually, less that 70, but I am not going to look the number up right now). At that temperature, the water vapor pressure is about 0.35psi. So a more realistic figure would be
32 x 0.35/14.7 or about 0.75 feet. Since there is already considerable water vapor in the air (on average probably something like 75%), the final figure would be about
0.75 x 0.25 = 0.2 feet or about 2 inches. After that had evaporated from the water, all boiling would stop and then it would be just evaporation and condensation. It would be a very different weather system then we have today without the dilluting effects of the air. But, you would probably be able to walk the surface with an oxygen mask on.
JohnR7 said:I am not going to judge him BUT if he were found to be a sexually immoral person, that would have a great deal of impact upon how much we can trust what he says.
1 Cor. 5:9-11
I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. [10] Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. [11] But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner--not even to eat with such a person.
The point is that light has no fellowship with darkness. People claim not to "believe" in God, but really they just want to life a life of sin and they want to violate the moral laws of God. So to try to justify themselves they will try to claim that there is no God and that they will NOT be held accountable. But they will be held accountable.
Numbers 32:23
But if you do not do so, then take note, you have sinned against the Lord; and be sure your sin will find you out.
Everyone has sinned against God, so by your logic, absolutely no one on the planet is worth paying attention to, including you.JohnR7 said:I am not going to judge him BUT if he were found to be a sexually immoral person, that would have a great deal of impact upon how much we can trust what he says.
1 Cor. 5:9-11
I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. [10] Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. [11] But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner--not even to eat with such a person.
The point is that light has no fellowship with darkness. People claim not to "believe" in God, but really they just want to life a life of sin and they want to violate the moral laws of God. So to try to justify themselves they will try to claim that there is no God and that they will NOT be held accountable. But they will be held accountable.
Numbers 32:23
But if you do not do so, then take note, you have sinned against the Lord; and be sure your sin will find you out.
You mean even John has probably sinned against god, I think I agree, thus we should ignore him as well.Jase said:Everyone has sinned against God, so by your logic, absolutely no one on the planet is worth paying attention to, including you.
And also, I do recall Jesus interacting with Mary Magdalene, a prostitute. I don't believe he cast her aside and completely ignored her. He forgave her, did he not? She was certainly considered sexually immoral, yet Jesus had the compassion to forgive her.
Okay, I think I understand about the layer of water vapor over the liquid and how that presents enough pressure against the liquid to stop boiling and, more or less, halt evaporation. And of course, that's assuming the sun's rays which are now partially blocked by the atmosphere aren't affecting the water to any great degree. But I'm starting to wonder if your forumla is correct so I'm going to submit a slight variation for your approval because it seems to me that you may be leaving out a vital factor.And-U-Say said:32x1/14.7 = about 2.2 feet. However... thats at 100F. The average temperature of the earth is much lower, about 70F (actually, less that 70, but I am not going to look the number up right now). At that temperature, the water vapor pressure is about 0.35psi. So a more realistic figure would be
32 x 0.35/14.7 or about 0.75 feet. Since there is already considerable water vapor in the air (on average probably something like 75%), the final figure would be about
0.75 x 0.25 = 0.2 feet or about 2 inches. After that had evaporated from the water, all boiling would stop and then it would be just evaporation and condensation. It would be a very different weather system then we have today without the dilluting effects of the air. But, you would probably be able to walk the surface with an oxygen mask on.
(edit: on second thought, no. Oxygen would not be enough. You need to have a sufficient partial pressure of oxygen to survive, a pressure of about 3psi. The 0.35psi environment of our hypothetical water vapor only world would not allow that much oxygen into your lungs, and you would suffocate.)
The exponent is yet to be determined, but yes, you are beginning to understand Creation Science.Beastt said:Okay, I think I understand about the layer of water vapor over the liquid and how that presents enough pressure against the liquid to stop boiling and, more or less, halt evaporation. And of course, that's assuming the sun's rays which are now partially blocked by the atmosphere aren't affecting the water to any great degree. But I'm starting to wonder if your forumla is correct so I'm going to submit a slight variation for your approval because it seems to me that you may be leaving out a vital factor.
Shouldn't this; 32 x 0.35/14.7, be corrected to;
32 x 0.35/14.7/(lust in your heart^2) ?
The way you have it set up the atmospheric pressure would stay the same even if you had sinned against God.
And-U-Say said:32x1/14.7 = about 2.2 feet. However... thats at 100F. The average temperature of the earth is much lower, about 70F (actually, less that 70, but I am not going to look the number up right now). At that temperature, the water vapor pressure is about 0.35psi. So a more realistic figure would be
32 x 0.35/14.7 or about 0.75 feet. Since there is already considerable water vapor in the air (on average probably something like 75%), the final figure would be about
0.75 x 0.25 = 0.2 feet or about 2 inches. After that had evaporated from the water, all boiling would stop and then it would be just evaporation and condensation. It would be a very different weather system then we have today without the dilluting effects of the air. But, you would probably be able to walk the surface with an oxygen mask on.
(edit: on second thought, no. Oxygen would not be enough. You need to have a sufficient partial pressure of oxygen to survive, a pressure of about 3psi. The 0.35psi environment of our hypothetical water vapor only world would not allow that much oxygen into your lungs, and you would suffocate.)
Depend's on your interpretation of scripture, but I am sure that there are many offenses that he is guilty of that qualify for at least a stoning.Beastt said:"May we burn 'im?"
Sorry, silly question.
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