Creational Perception Ratio

[AV1611VET]

Because, they really, really, really need to believe it is legit eye witness testimony?

The Bible says it, that settles it.

 

[bhsmte]

The Bible says it, that settles it.

Ok.

 

[Ophiolite]

How many killers have been caught because they were in a bar bragging about it?

How many kangaroos have appeared on syndicated game shows in California?

 

[LisaPar]

The Bible says that the universe is a created thing, in all its beauty, wonder, and vastness, it is still just a created thing.

Just how would the people who wrote the Bible know that? what insight did they have that we do not?
Could it be that they just made it all up?

 

[LisaPar]

The Bible says it, that settles it.

I think that's called 'giving in', it's lucky for us everyone didn't say that or we would all still be living in caves and making sacrifices to a multitude of Gods.

 

[bhsmte]

I think that's called 'giving in', it's lucky for us everyone didn't say that or we would all still be living in caves and making sacrifices to a multitude of Gods.

It's called black and white thinking. It makes it easy, and takes any intellectual thought out of the equation.

 

[AV1611VET]

I think that's called 'giving in', it's lucky for us everyone didn't say that or we would all still be living in caves and making sacrifices to a multitude of Gods.

You might, consol, but I wouldn't.

 

[Ophiolite]

It's called black and white thinking. It makes it easy, and takes any intellectual thought out of the equation.

One thing I have become more aware of since frequenting forums for the last decade or so is that, in this context, people fall into two categories.

In the first group are those who are comfortable with uncertainty. Some even relish it, since it holds the promise of novelty, of investigation and discovery.

The second group require very solid foundations and clarity in most aspects of living.

I acknowledge that there is a continuous spectrum stretching from extremes in both groups and that many people will display different aspects at different times and situations in their lives.

I am biased, since I sit firmly in the first group. From that perspective it seems to me that those in the second group, needing certainty, will arrive at conclusions based upon insufficient evidence and will preferentially absorb community standards and stereotypes without due thought. That seems to me a dangerous and wrong approach.

 

[AV1611VET]

One thing I have become more aware of since frequenting forums for the last decade or so is that, in this context, people fall into two categories.

In the first group are those who are comfortable with uncertainty. Some even relish it, since it holds the promise of novelty, of investigation and discovery.

The second group require very solid foundations and clarity in most aspects of living.

I acknowledge that there is a continuous spectrum stretching from extremes in both groups and that many people will display different aspects at different times and situations in their lives.

I am biased, since I sit firmly in the first group. From that perspective it seems to me that those in the second group, needing certainty, will arrive at conclusions based upon insufficient evidence and will preferentially absorb community standards and stereotypes without due thought. That seems to me a dangerous and wrong approach.

 

[Hallstone]

Just how would the people who wrote the Bible know that? what insight did they have that we do not?
Could it be that they just made it all up?

Anyone with an objective mind knows that a complex working structure has to be carefully designed and built and maintained, this is how the universe was created to work, it is this premise that clarifies a persons perception so that they can understand the concept of God and His personal influence on the creation. Intricacy, complexity, beauty, variety, sustainability. All these are concrete aspects of creation, only deception, and denial can block the true logic that can open the eyes of the disbelieving. In other words, the Maker is clearly seen through what has been made. One only needs to go a few more steps and obey Him to complete the journey.

 

[46AND2]

Anyone with an objective mind knows that a complex working structure has to be carefully designed and built and maintained, this is how the universe was created to work, it is this premise that clarifies a persons perception so that they can understand the concept of God and His personal influence on the creation. Intricacy, complexity, beauty, variety, sustainability. All these are concrete aspects of creation, only deception, and denial can block the true logic that can open the eyes of the disbelieving. In other words, the Maker is clearly seen through what has been made. One only needs to go a few more steps and obey Him to complete the journey.

Only one with a subjective mind assumes a creator for something we have never observed created.

 

[Hallstone]

Only one with a subjective mind assumes a creator for something we have never observed created.

Mat 12:38 Then some of the scribes and Pharisees said to Him, "Teacher, we want to see a sign from You."
Mat 12:39 But He answered and said to them, "An evil and adulterous generation craves for a sign; and yet no sign will be given to it but the sign of Jonah the prophet;
Mat 12:40 for just as JONAH WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE BELLY OF THE SEA MONSTER, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Only one with a cynical mind would disregard the proof in front of him and demand the sign of his own choice. If God has chosen to create this world and recreate it in such a way as to test mankind then you will be one of those that indeed fail the test, if you do not heed the signs that have already been given.

 

[46AND2]

Mat 12:38 Then some of the scribes and Pharisees said to Him, "Teacher, we want to see a sign from You."
Mat 12:39 But He answered and said to them, "An evil and adulterous generation craves for a sign; and yet no sign will be given to it but the sign of Jonah the prophet;
Mat 12:40 for just as JONAH WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE BELLY OF THE SEA MONSTER, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Only one with a cynical mind would disregard the proof in front of him and demand the sign of his own choice. If God has chosen to create this world and recreate it in such a way as to test mankind then you will be one of those that indeed fail the test, if you do not heed the signs that have already been given.

Only a gullible mind believes an unseen sign.

 

[Hallstone]

Only a gullible mind believes an unseen sign.

Unseen, but not unperceived.
Psa 146:8 The LORD opens the eyes of the blind;
The LORD raises up those who are bowed down;
The LORD loves the righteous