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sunshine flower said:
In psalm does it not say a thousand days to the lord is one to us. I am trying to sort this out in my head.
Many people try to use that as Biblical evidence but they fail to read on.

The Bible continues to say in the same passage that a thousand years is like a day! Now if you've done math with fractions and all that, you've probably done the process (more of shortcut actually) where if a numerator and denominator are the same, they cancel each other out.

The same could apply here. The Bible says a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day. They cancel each other out making niether statement strong enough to use as a defination of time.

Also, that passage refers to God being outside of time, it isn't setting time frame definations.

And one other point is the word "like". It is used in the passage and denotes a metaphor. It doesn't say that a day is a thousand years, it says a day is LIKE a thousand years.

There are some other 'time' passages that people will use but again, there is usually more to it than they say.

I hope all this makes sense to you and ask more questions if you feel like it.
 
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Oh boy! You have asked a question that will give you a lot of different answers!

Christianity tends to view creation is one of three ways:

1. God created the universe in 6 24 hour time periods.

2. God created the universe in 6 time period of unknown length (usually very long time periods)

3. The Genesis record of creation is a poetic version of what God did in a form that we humans of limited mind can grasp

All three views see God as the creator and nothing exists aside from what He created.

There are interesting things to consider:

The first day of creation happens without the sun which is created on day 4, so there is nothing at all the make day 1 limited to 24 hours unless God chose to do so.

If they were 24 hour days, which is certaily within God's power, Adam had one very busy and exhausting day on 6 - he is created, undergoes major surgery for the creation of Eve, and named all creatures on the land and birds of the air. That's a very busy 24 hours!

Personally, it does not matter to me. I know God did the creating and it doesn't make any difference to me if a day was 24 hours or 24,000 years, or if the days were of varying lengths. But you will find that many Christians feel quite passionatly about one view or another.
 
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This may seem realllyyy stupid, but is the traditionally Sabbath a Saturday or Sunday? I ask because technically, the new week begins on a Sunday. Also, when Jesus was crucified and they removed His body from the cross, the didin't prepare him for burial because the Sabbath was drawing near. Wasn't he taken down on a Friday? Stpid question, I know.

But then, it's Sunday that's the 'normal' day of rest.
 
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A simple follow up to the past three posts is to read the Bible. Find out what it says. After you have read and understood God's special revelation (the Bible), then go out into the world. After knowing what the Bible says, alot of things can be explained but just beware, don't look at the world to help you interpret the Bible, that's how we get theistic evolutionists and old earth creationists.

Science is fallible and has been proven to be so many times. I try to start with a source that I believe to be infallible and the ultimate truth.

I hold strongly to young earth creationism (the belief that the earth was created by God in six literal days) because that's what the Bible tells us.
 
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Captain_Scott said:
well if you beleive that the bible is THE word of God then yes, its a 6 day creation, and the 7th day was when God rested. If you start saying that is just an inspired book then you can start to nit-pic...which is very dangeriouse...so yes, its a 1 week creation
Dude, its EXTREMELY dangerous and that's why I'm so passionate about it. It helps set your view of the whole Bible.
 
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but'n'ben said:
This may seem realllyyy stupid, but is the traditionally Sabbath a Saturday or Sunday? I ask because technically, the new week begins on a Sunday. Also, when Jesus was crucified and they removed His body from the cross, the didin't prepare him for burial because the Sabbath was drawing near. Wasn't he taken down on a Friday? Stpid question, I know.

But then, it's Sunday that's the 'normal' day of rest.
O.K. -- The Sabbath is Saturday and the nation of Isreal is to remember it and keep it holy (after having been taken out of Egypt). Sunday is the "Lords Day" celerbrated by Christians... because Christ fulfilled the law (of Moses) .

Christ was crucified on Friday, but the Sabbath begins at sundown Friday evening. In fact every day begins at sundown of the previous day not midnight.
 
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sunshine flower said:
do you think creation was done in 7 of our days we have now, or hundreds of days ?:clap:
The first chapter of Genesis says that it took God six יוֹם s (pronounced yom).

Since yom can--and commonly does--mean a 24-hour day, you will find a sizable number of Christians who think that all of creation took a total of 144 hours. A literal reading of the scripture can support this position. Persons who adhere to this interpretation are generally known as young earth creationists.

Although yom can also mean that portion of a day in which sunlight strikes a particular part of the Earth's surface, I am not aware of anyone who thinks that is what is meant in this chapter.

Yom can also mean an age, an era, or an indefinite period of time--and you will also find a sizable number of Christians who think this is the better interpretation of what yom means. A literal reading of the scripture can support this position. Persons who adhere to this interpretation are generally known as old earth creationists (since they tend to think creation took the billions of years that mainstream science indicates it took), although that term is also used for others who think the Bible's creation account(s) should be read figuratively instead of literally.

All of this is discussed in much greater detail in the two CF forums devoted to science and creation (one for everyone, and one limited to just Christians).
 
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7. like the thing says. millions of years old earth? why not? adam was a full-grown man when he was created. why not create the earth fully devoloped at the ripe age of 5 million years? of course, that means the earth is not as old as it physically is. :scratch: no biggie.
 
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Sometimes I think christians are taking the bible too literally in the scientifc aspects. IMO many times the situations are symbolic rather than scientifically accurate, divinely inspired and written for our souls but maybe not technological progresses. So I am not taking the numbers too seriously. I hope more than 144000 will be saved in the end. We should understand the symbolic tradition of numbers of the Jews and early christians(3, 7, 12, 10, 22..).
 
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Q-La said:
Sometimes I think christians are taking the bible too literally in the scientifc aspects. IMO many times the situations are symbolic rather than scientifically accurate, divinely inspired and written for our souls but maybe not technological progresses. So I am not taking the numbers too seriously. I hope more than 144000 will be saved in the end. We should understand the symbolic tradition of numbers of the Jews and early christians(3, 7, 12, 10, 22..).
literal first, then symbolism. something happens, and that becomes a type, or symbol. otherwise, you must assume none of the bible means what it says.
 
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Underdog77 said:
I hold strongly to young earth creationism (the belief that the earth was created by God in six literal days) because that's what the Bible tells us.
Did Jesus not talk using parables and was Jesus not an incarnation of God? As such, do you not believe that God talked using parables to illustrate certain points when inspiring the Bible and possibly didn't mean for every word of the Bible to be taken literally?
 
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