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Creation is winning by Evolutions rules

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Just thought I'd fix that for ya.
 
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rmwilliamsll said:
I've read the replies and I'm stopping contributions here (I'm not using my time on Earth solely for jousts over evolution)

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Just witness to your truth and split for another forum and do it there. repeat as needed for self aggrandizement.

I have the courtesy to read your replies, I'm just not arguing the points - if you haven't understood the jest there's no point to it.
 
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Alright, look! I admit my understanding of Evolution is as limited as stating that it is about "survival of the fittest". That neatly states everything I needed to know in order to write the first post. Clearly for some of you, that is not enough, but need I remind you that you downloaded the post. I did not send, SPAM style, the post to you.

Also, I would like to admit that I like the evolution theory for a number of reasons. One, it is about positive change (survival is positive). Two, it emphasizes the importance of belief and learning (if you didn't believe evolution you wouldn't discuss it, if you didn't learn you wouldn't gain what is positive). Three, it helps you to realize that it is ok to simply disagree about certain things - there's no telling that somebody or something won't survive.

I think it is valuable to consider theories that can help people. Regardless of what they have known, my brothers and sisters in Christ have travelled the world - even to unchartered territory - in order to clothe people, feed people, heal people, even bring them to life. If a theory could help us do that better, then that would be great! Evolution - "survival of the fittest" - helps to explain why we help people who aren't fit and why we reject in our body (of people) things that are not fit. It even helps to explain why we joke about believing in our Creator making us fitter!
 
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I_Love_Cheese said:
Is this Poe's Law or a Freudian Slip?

Freud was a demon and went to Hell - nothing he said made sense spiritually. I have attempted to analyze my statement for potential quips... not slips, but haven't been able find any. The jest is that I do not need to be fit having accepted Jesus Christ as Lord, but I have carried on as if it is important.

Poe's Law is interesting, I had to look it up . As far as I can tell , it only applies in as much as someone is prepared to judge someone else on the basis of what they write before they have met them. Smilies aleviate the problem of having to talk English, but is that the best solution, I wonder ?
 
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Words fail me, gentlemen.
 
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Gottservant said:
Alright, look! I admit my understanding of Evolution is as limited as stating that it is about "survival of the fittest".
Which is already wrong, or at best extremely inaccurate.

That neatly states everything I needed to know in order to write the first post.
Yes, I can write a lot of junk too if I don't know what I'm talking about.

Clearly for some of you, that is not enough, but need I remind you that you downloaded the post. I did not send, SPAM style, the post to you.
But you also are, apparantly, not willing to learn from errors pointed out to you. And that is what people are railing against here. Not that you posted this, but that you are unwilling to discuss what you posted and learn why it is extremely incorrect.

What a strange way of viewing the theory of evolution.

1. Evolution is about change, whether good or bad. Nothing more or less. "Good" and "Bad" are judgements that we make and that have nothing to do with the theory of evolution.

2. Evolution is not a belief. It is accepting the best supported theory.

3. That we can disagree about things, does not mean some things (like your OP) aren't completely wrong on every count.

I think it is valuable to consider theories that can help people.
It is valuable to consider theories that are in line with the evidence. Only those will ever help people. The rest is just empty babling.

Regardless of what they have known, my brothers and sisters in Christ have travelled the world - even to unchartered territory - in order to clothe people, feed people, heal people, even bring them to life.
Which has nothing to do with evolution. Many christians are also evolutionists.

If a theory could help us do that better, then that would be great!
So, does the theory of gravity help us to do that better? General relativity maybe? Atomic theory? The objective of a theory is to better describe the observations, nothing more, nothing less. That is science. How we act with that is not science.

Evolution - "survival of the fittest" - helps to explain why we help people who aren't fit and why we reject in our body (of people) things that are not fit. It even helps to explain why we joke about believing in our Creator making us fitter!
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It's that time again, I'm glad I didn't drink anything while reading this, because else my computer would have broken. You must be a parody, you're so funny!

No, it is judging a way of thinking on it's merits.

It's very simple. Creationist theories are so completely moronic, that every time someone ups the ante a little bit and thinks up a new 'creationist theory' for fun, someone, usually creationists, are going to think it's the real deal. That should tell you something about it's validity.

Somehow, that never happens with evolution, I wonder why?
 
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Oh, and another thing:

Evolution - no commitment to theory (you don't change evolution)
Creation - total commitment to religion (you change at all costs)

Evolution - changing from finding to finding
Creation - constant from the first finding (God)

Dont these two contradict each other? They are right next to each other in the OP.

Which one of these two are you going to retract then?
 
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Gottservant said:
Freud was a demon and went to Hell - nothing he said made sense spiritually.

You haven't made sense spiritually yet -- or physically, for that matter.

I have attempted to analyze my statement for potential quips... not slips, but haven't been able find any. The jest is that I do not need to be fit having accepted Jesus Christ as Lord, but I have carried on as if it is important.

Good example.


Well, on amessage board, your words are the only way any of us can "meet" you. And history has shown us hordes of YEC parody posters typing gibberish and pretending to belive it as "Truth," as well as genuine YECs posting real gibberish and claiming it's divinely inspired.

Sadly, we have reached a point where it is no longer possible to tell the difference -- Hence, Poe's Law.

Your comment about Freud being a demon, for example -- Priceless.
 
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