Creating a New Nation! The New C.S.A. (2)

[Nathan Poe]

You are wrong because your premise is wrong.

Here is your answer, it is in a form of a question.

Is it lawful and just to commit murder right now in APRIL 2, 2008; in the sight of GOD?

Opps! You're hosed New World Man!!!

It is still SIN to commit murder: why is that? Opps!

Here is holy Scripture that applies to us right this very second, it is from the New Testament:

First of all, Shield, I think you mean "oops," not "opps." </nitpick>

Second, neither NewWorldMan nor anyone else is denying that murder is still a big no-no in the sight of God -- however, I would like to ask you a question:

Is is lawful and just to work on a Saturday right now in April 2, 2008? (or should I say, on Saturday, April 5, 2008)?

The Bible says that it is not, and commands the death penalty for anyone doing so.

[BIBLE]Exodus 31:12-15[/BIBLE]

Will the C.S.A. do the same?

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The government does not cut peoples heads off in vain. The government is "God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil."[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]YEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAW!!![/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]You have your answer.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]SOLA FIDE.[/FONT]

So, working on a Saturday -- death penalty or not?

 

[reverend B]

You are wrong because your premise is wrong.

Here is your answer, it is in a form of a question.

Is it lawful and just to commit murder right now in APRIL 2, 2008; in the sight of GOD?

Opps! You're hosed New World Man!!!

It is still SIN to commit murder: why is that? Opps!

Here is holy Scripture that applies to us right this very second, it is from the New Testament:

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience' sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God's ministers attending continually to this very thing. --Romans 13

Opps! You are now 2x's hosed!

The government does not cut peoples heads off in vain. The government is "God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil."

YEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAW!!!

You have your answer.

SOLA FIDE.
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why don't you have the courage to answer the question? be proud of whatever it is you believe and stand up. we will all think you are insane, of course, but you will at least still have your self-respect. right now, you know you are avoiding the man's legitimate question out of fear or ignorance or some other shortcoming. your false bravado when declaring victory is fooling no one and is simply an attempt to make pridefulness stand in for forthrightness.

just wondering out loud here. the taliban was the ruler of afghanistan. they cut off peoples heads in vain. so did rome. paul makes no distinction about which authorities he is referring to, just authorities in general. are you saying that Jesus was actually evil? you must be, because rulers can not do wrong, so that is the only conclusion we can come to here, as they were the ones that allowed Jesus to be crucified. are you saying this was the righteous thing to do?

NOW I GET IT!!! you are actually a satan worshipper that is trying to get us all to go down an evil path!!! oh, lucifer, you are a clever one. not this time, though. no sir. we choose LOVE!!! try to stop us.

 

[Shadowfax503]

NOW I GET IT!!! you are actually a satan worshipper that is trying to get us all to go down an evil path!!! oh, lucifer, you are a clever one. not this time, though. no sir. we choose LOVE!!! try to stop us.

LOL!
Oh man have you just started something.

 

[Paulos23]

NOW I GET IT!!! you are actually a satan worshipper that is trying to get us all to go down an evil path!!! oh, lucifer, you are a clever one. not this time, though. no sir. we choose LOVE!!! try to stop us.

Does that mean I have to give up one of my titles?

 

[mpok1519]

yes, would someone who works on saturday or sunday be put to death in the CSA as OT law commands?

SoF >> go ahead and answer. You got my permission. =)

 

[Nathan Poe]

yes, would someone who works on saturday or sunday be put to death in the CSA as OT law commands?

SoF >> go ahead and answer. You got my permission. =)

Sunday? This particular law was given from God to Moses, who, unless my theology is more than a little off, was a Jew. And as both God and Moses would know perfectly well, the Jewish Sabbath has always been Saturday.

 

[ShieldOFaith]

why don't you have the courage to answer the question? be proud of whatever it is you believe and stand up. we will all think you are insane,

I don't care what you think.

I am 100% correct. You are wrong.

Romans 13 gives the government the right to execute Capital Punishment. I'm still right.

SOLA SCRIPTURA.

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

I don't care what you think.

I am 100% correct. You are wrong.

Romans 13 gives the government the right to execute Capital Punishment. I'm still right.

SOLA SCRIPTURA.

You didn't answer the questions. The questions had nothing to do with your stance on capital punishment. Here, let's try again:

1. Would SoF enforce all of OT law in its entirety? This should be answerable by a simple yes or no, as either CSA law = OT law, or CSA law &#8800; OT law. It's either-or.

2. If the answer to question #1 is no, then what would be the differences between CSA law and OT law, and on what basis and authority does SoF disobey orders and deviate from OT law?

 

[reverend B]

I don't care what you think.

I am 100% correct. You are wrong.

Romans 13 gives the government the right to execute Capital Punishment. I'm still right.

SOLA SCRIPTURA.

you can edit out the rest of my post, but others know what it said. you can't answer it because you don't know the heart of God as you would like to think you do. your response is "i can't handle what you are asking me, but i'm right because i'm right and that's all, so there!" have i got a pretty good handle on your position?

 

[reverend B]

I don't care what you think.

I am 100% correct. You are wrong.

Romans 13 gives the government the right to execute Capital Punishment. I'm still right.

SOLA SCRIPTURA.

so they DID have the right to give permission to have Christ murdered! thanks for your input. all this time i thought the crucifiers were the bad guys. silly me, sof!!!

 

[Blackguard_]

^^^
Well, he did work on the Sabbath.

I'm sure that's good enough for SoF.

You think a country like the CSA whose national motto is probably "hang em' high" isn't gonna go with the strict interpretation of laws?

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

you can edit out the rest of my post, but others know what it said. you can't answer it because you don't know the heart of God as you would like to think you do. your response is "i can't handle what you are asking me, but i'm right because i'm right and that's all, so there!" have i got a pretty good handle on your position?

He knows that he is "hosed" (as he puts it) whether he answers "yes" or "no" to my first question.

If he answers "yes," then he is no different from the Taliban or Al-Quaeda or Jim Jones or Charles Manson or anyone else who thinks God gives them the authority to kill. The people who crashed the airplanes into the WTC on 9/11 were "just following orders" (the Quran) too.

However, from his perspective, to answer "no" would be even worse, because then he would be admitting he is not truly getting his authority from his God, but rather from himself...

He fully understand my questions, and how to answer them, but is is evading them because he knows either answer would be damning for his position and credibility.

 

[Blackguard_]

He knows that he is "hosed" (as he puts it) whether he answers "yes" or "no" to my first question.

I don't think so.

Everyone else already sees him like that, and he doesn't seem to much care or notice what others think.

As long as he can convince himself he's following the Truth&#8482; and the others you listed followed false idols, I don't think he'd have a problem saying yes.

Maybe even part of SoF doubts this madness?

 

[FaithLikeARock]

Source? I highly doubt being betrothed was the same as marriage because then marriage would be a useless ceremony.

Asking again for a source that marriage was the same as betrothal SOF. Because I've taken quite a few New Testament studies with every kind of teacher and I've never once been told such a thing. You'd think it would be an important part of studying the birth.

 

[USMC4Life]

Asking again for a source that marriage was the same as betrothal SOF. Because I've taken quite a few New Testament studies with every kind of teacher and I've never once been told such a thing. You'd think it would be an important part of studying the birth.

Go look up Jewish law, how about instead of denying the truth to it look it up yourself. Betrothal was a legally binding marriage which only could be ended by divorce, which you learn by Mathew 1:19 which says that Joseph was thinking about quietly divorcing her, which why would he if he wasn't married to her?

 

[Gremlins]

I don't care what you think.

I am 100% correct. You are wrong.

Romans 13 gives the government the right to execute Capital Punishment. I'm still right.

SOLA SCRIPTURA.

Presumably not sharing the entirety of your wealth will be punishable by death in the CSA?

 

[Shadowfax503]

SoF, I know there too many posts to keep up with all this but if you wouldnt mind responding to my post please.

I have to say from what I understand of the new CSA I just do not see Jesus in it. I see "Christians" putting up walls to keep all the sinners out. That is how I see what you are saying. If I am wrong please explain how the CSA would show Jesus to sinners?

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Thanks
God Bless

 

[Nathan Poe]

^^^
Well, he did work on the Sabbath.

I'm sure that's good enough for SoF.

Let's not forget his "I and the Father are One" line -- to the Pharasees, that's blasphemy and heresy. By converting others to this way of thinking, Jesus was violating Deuteronomy:

[BIBLE]Deuteronomy 13:1-5[/BIBLE]

 

[FaithLikeARock]

Go look up Jewish law, how about instead of denying the truth to it look it up yourself. Betrothal was a legally binding marriage which only could be ended by divorce, which you learn by Mathew 1:19 which says that Joseph was thinking about quietly divorcing her, which why would he if he wasn't married to her?

That's funny. My translation says he thought about BREAKING THE ENGAGEMENT. Yet another example of how inaccurate the Bible has become because of bad translation.

 

[mpok1519]

if God hates sin, how come He made it?

He hates parts of His creation, and in essence, Hates part of Himself?

If