Creating a New Nation! The New C.S.A. (2)

Nathan Poe · Mar 27, 2008

ShieldOFaith said:
I know this is almost Quantum Mechanics, but stay with me here.

1. You start a new nation.

2. You buy an island that is uninhabited or has a very small populace.

3. YOU MAKE SURE YOU TELL EVERYONE THAT IS ABOUT TO COME TO THIS ISLAND TO LIVE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A VERY STRICT CAPITAL PUNISHMENT SYSTEM PUT INTO PLACE IN THIS NEW NATION. YOU LIST ALL THE CRIMES THAT WILL CARRY A DEATH SENTENCE. YES, ONE OF THEM IS HOMOSEXUALITY.

HENCE THE CRIMINALS WHO WOULD WANT TO COMMIT ONE OF THESE CRIMES WOULD NOT WANT TO GO TO THIS NEW NATION. GEE--WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT???

Your plan has a fundamental flaw (no pun intended) : telling people there is a strict capital punishment system is different -- far different -- from getting people to believe there is a strict capital punishment system in place.

The sad truth of it is, Shield, that talk is cheap. People are going to find your claims preposterous until they see the evidence for themselves. (Remember Thomas?)

Don't get me wrong, Shield -- I, for one, certainly believe you to be capable of fulfilling this justice system, even though your words of late don't necessarily support your earlier promises. But for most people, especially the ones who you'd want to attract to your C.S.A., announcing the rules is going to be met with a large wave of indifference -- until you actually put them into use.

I would suggest that while you've repeatedly claimed that the C.S.A. does not practice genocide, such a display might be the only thing that shows your own citizens (let alone the rest of the world) that you mean business.

Nathan Poe · Mar 27, 2008

mpok1519 said:
SoF sounds like Fred Phelps. (sadly, I live in the same city as that whacko.)

CSA would be a rogue dictatorship which the USA would destory in a matter of, oh, I don't know, days.

we did it to Iraq. We can do it again! only this time, the American people will agree w/ the war w/ CSA!

Unnecessary. As I've been saying, unless SoF actually carries out his claims, his C.S.A. will quickly disintegrate from within.

And should he do it, I wonder how many of those "True Christians" will really rejoice at the lynchings after actually witnessing a few.

Hanging is an ugly business, after all -- one I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, let alone some poor achlub who cathered sticks on a Saturday.

SpyridonOCA · Mar 27, 2008

Stewart-Colber!!! WOO HOOO!!!!!

Sitswithamouse · Mar 26, 2008

ShieldOFaith said:
I know this is almost Quantum Mechanics, but stay with me here.

1. You start a new nation.

2. You buy an island that is uninhabited or has a very small populace.

3. YOU MAKE SURE YOU TELL EVERYONE THAT IS ABOUT TO COME TO THIS ISLAND TO LIVE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A VERY STRICT CAPITAL PUNISHMENT SYSTEM PUT INTO PLACE IN THIS NEW NATION. YOU LIST ALL THE CRIMES THAT WILL CARRY A DEATH SENTENCE. YES, ONE OF THEM IS HOMOSEXUALITY.

HENCE THE CRIMINALS WHO WOULD WANT TO COMMIT ONE OF THESE CRIMES WOULD NOT WANT TO GO TO THIS NEW NATION. GEE--WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT???

Now I know that one must almost have a Ph.D in nuclear physics to follow this extremely difficult concept; but I am hoping you can catch on to this, this time.

To recap:

Create a new nation.

Warn people that there will be a strong capital punishment system put into place that will not play with criminals. List the crimes that will get you killed.

Those who wish to commit these kind of crimes would not want to go to this new place.

Alrighty then...

SOLA GRATIA.

Ok. Neat plan until all those that start to have families produce the undesirables you don't want and it will happen.
I'm afraid just because you create a society where everyone is good, it doesn't mean it will last.
Are you going to hang the next generation for thought crimes and being different.
Remember, we were born with sin (as most christians believe) so that sin will pour into your new regime.
I see genocide in your brave new world, Have fun with that.
Oh I forgot you probably will, after all it is what "YOUR" God wants.

TheNewWorldMan · Mar 27, 2008

ShieldOFaith said:
I know this is almost Quantum Mechanics, but stay with me here.

1. You start a new nation.

2. You buy an island that is uninhabited or has a very small populace.

3. YOU MAKE SURE YOU TELL EVERYONE THAT IS ABOUT TO COME TO THIS ISLAND TO LIVE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A VERY STRICT CAPITAL PUNISHMENT SYSTEM PUT INTO PLACE IN THIS NEW NATION. YOU LIST ALL THE CRIMES THAT WILL CARRY A DEATH SENTENCE. YES, ONE OF THEM IS HOMOSEXUALITY.

HENCE THE CRIMINALS WHO WOULD WANT TO COMMIT ONE OF THESE CRIMES WOULD NOT WANT TO GO TO THIS NEW NATION. GEE--WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT???

Actually, I've forgotten more about geography and anthropology than you'll ever know. Not bragging, just a simple statement of fact, based on your posts.

An uninhabited or sparsely inhabited island, you say? Those are rather hard to come by--at least in a size large enough to build a functional society. And those that do exist are generally un/underinhabited for a reason (little arable land, minimal resources, scarcity of freshwater, and so on).

I suppose there's Greenland, but that's already occupied. There are some tiny islands around Antarctica, but none capable of supporting a self-sufficient human population. There's Antarctica itself; good luck growing anything there to eat.

So enlighten me, SoF. What island do you intend to...acquire...to make your C.S.A.?

Gremlins · Mar 27, 2008

TheNewWorldMan said:
Actually, I've forgotten more about geography and anthropology than you'll ever know. Not bragging, just a simple statement of fact, based on your posts.

An uninhabited or sparsely inhabited island, you say? Those are rather hard to come by--at least in a size large enough to build a functional society. And those that do exist are generally un/underinhabited for a reason (little arable land, minimal resources, scarcity of freshwater, and so on).

I suppose there's Greenland, but that's already occupied. There are some tiny islands around Antarctica, but none capable of supporting a self-sufficient human population. There's Antarctica itself; good luck growing anything there to eat.

So enlighten me, SoF. What island do you intend to...acquire...to make your C.S.A.?

I'm sure once the neocons carpet bombsVenezuela, those nice little tropical islands off the coast will be ripe for colonisation

ShieldOFaith · Mar 27, 2008

TheNewWorldMan said:
Actually, I've forgotten more about geography and anthropology than you'll ever know. Not bragging, just a simple statement of fact, based on your posts.

An uninhabited or sparsely inhabited island, you say? Those are rather hard to come by--at least in a size large enough to build a functional society. And those that do exist are generally un/underinhabited for a reason (little arable land, minimal resources, scarcity of freshwater, and so on).

I suppose there's Greenland, but that's already occupied. There are some tiny islands around Antarctica, but none capable of supporting a self-sufficient human population. There's Antarctica itself; good luck growing anything there to eat.

So enlighten me, SoF. What island do you intend to...acquire...to make your C.S.A.?

One of those Hawaiian Islands?
http://www.gohawaii.com/molokai/learn/quick_guides

Or a chunk of Australia?
http://www.experiencequeensland.com/

The C.S.A. is looking pretty good right now huh?

SOLA GRATIA.

HollandScotts · Mar 27, 2008

3. YOU MAKE SURE YOU TELL EVERYONE THAT IS ABOUT TO COME TO THIS ISLAND TO LIVE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A VERY STRICT CAPITAL PUNISHMENT SYSTEM PUT INTO PLACE IN THIS NEW NATION. YOU LIST ALL THE CRIMES THAT WILL CARRY A DEATH SENTENCE. YES, ONE OF THEM IS HOMOSEXUALITY.

How is this any different than the nazis?

DrStrangelove · Mar 27, 2008

ShieldOFaith said:
One of those Hawaiian Islands?
http://www.gohawaii.com/molokai/learn/quick_guides

Or a chunk of Australia?
http://www.experiencequeensland.com/

The C.S.A. is looking pretty good right now huh?

SOLA GRATIA.

...how is it the "Confederate States of America" if it isn't even on the same continental plate? ...how is it even a confederacy if there isn't enough land for more than a single state?

Infact, do you even know what a Confederation is?

Nathan Poe · Mar 26, 2008

ShieldOFaith said:
One of those Hawaiian Islands?
http://www.gohawaii.com/molokai/learn/quick_guides

Or a chunk of Australia?
http://www.experiencequeensland.com/

The C.S.A. is looking pretty good right now huh?

SOLA GRATIA.

"One of those Hawaiian Islands" would be a part of Hawaii, and as such, part of the United States -- and the US isn't in the habit of selling off its and pieces of itself.

Don't know much about Australia, but I'd imagine that they feel the same way.

Going to have to go with DrStrangelove here -- you may need to rename your C.S.A.

TheNewWorldMan · Mar 26, 2008

ShieldOFaith said:
One of those Hawaiian Islands?
http://www.gohawaii.com/molokai/learn/quick_guides

Occupied, or designated a preserve.

Or a chunk of Australia?
http://www.experiencequeensland.com/

There are these funny people called "Australians" that already own that territory.

The C.S.A. is looking pretty good right now huh?

SOLA GRATIA.

Still a demented pipe dream...

TheNewWorldMan · Mar 27, 2008

DrStrangelove said:
...how is it the "Confederate States of America" if it isn't even on the same continental plate? ...how is it even a confederacy if there isn't enough land for more than a single state?

Infact, do you even know what a Confederation is?

Geography isn't SoF's forte.

Neither is political science if he thinks Australia and the United States of America would voluntarily cede land so a new tin-horn dictatorship could be born.

ShieldOFaith · Mar 27, 2008

DrStrangelove said:
...how is it the "Confederate States of America" if it isn't even on the same continental plate? ...how is it even a confederacy if there isn't enough land for more than a single state?

Infact, do you even know what a Confederation is?

I like the name, so I would use it.

DrStrangelove · Mar 27, 2008

ShieldOFaith said:
I like the name, so I would use it.

...you know, normally the name of a nation tends to have some relevance to the nation's area, or ethnic group, or system of government, or how it came into being..you just don't magically "Well, this sounds good and has no relevance to the nation at all.." with names.

TheNewWorldMan · Mar 27, 2008

DrStrangelove said:
...you know, normally the name of a nation tends to have some relevance to the nation's area, or ethnic group, or system of government, or how it came into being..you just don't magically "Well, this sounds good and has no relevance to the nation at all.." with names.

When you're a dictator, you don't have to trouble yourself with useless details like whether or not your nation's name makes sense. If someone complains, you just have them shot.

mpok1519 · Mar 29, 2008

HollandScotts said:
How is this any different than the nazis?

yes this is true.

Tell us SoF, how is this different from the nazi occupation of europe?

Gremlins · Mar 29, 2008

ShieldOFaith said:
I like the name, so I would use it.

How about Gilead instead. Not like anyone's done that before (seriously, I hope Handmaiden's Tale gives you the same uneasy feeling that a communist gets reading Animal Farm).

mpok1519 · Mar 29, 2008

it'd surprise me if he understood the premise Animal Farm and 1984 were trying to exhibit.

Gremlins · Mar 29, 2008

mpok1519 said:
it'd surprise me if he understood the premise Animal Farm and 1984 were trying to exhibit.

No, he probably likes Animal Farm; it's very anti-communist. Satire is only allowed if it's about something that GOD ALMIGHTY has CONDEMNED TO AN ETERNITY OF FIREY PAIN AND BOWEL CANCER!!!!!

mpok1519 · Mar 29, 2008

I think he's read the Bible to the extent where it confines his love rather tha expands it.

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