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Vets have some good alternatives to flee collars, and if done at the annual vet check, won't cost much.


However, until then...give your dog a flee bath, and then very thorougly wash and vacuum all bedding, chairs, sofas, blinds, carpets, etc.

But, I highly recommend going to the vet to also help with your dog's behaviour. It should not have such a reaction to a flee collar, unless it is allergic to it. Does your dog exhibit such overwrought reactions to other situations? Again...a trip to the vet seems like the best bet.
 
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Flea collars dont work very well anyway. You can buy some liquid that you put behind the dogs neck and I recomend putting it down their back to the base of their tail. There are various brands of this. Advantage is expensive and can be bought at a veternary hospital or mail order. It costs about $40 for 3 months. Seargents pretect works well and is only $6 at walmart. buy the one for the largest dogs and only use part of it if your dog isn't that big. Cost the same as the one for smaller dogs, just you get more. Put it on once a month. Also giving your dog brewers yeast with garlic tablets will help as a deterant to fleas, also boost his immune system and be very good for his skin and coat. Walmart sells these for $250 for 250 tabs, give one for each 10 pounds of body weight. Just put it in his food dish with his food. Make sure you rid your house and yard of fleas. There are powders and sprays for furniture, carpet, grass... some are more natural than others.
 
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Frontline Plus worked great for my dogs. But you may have to change the behavioral pattern on your dog. Try getting some treats when you put his collar on and pet/play with him for being so cooperative with you. This may take 3 to 4 times to repeat. But once the dog realizes he's about to get a treat and you'll play with him once the collar is on, then you should get the programmed response you desire.

Otherwise, I'd give him a cat to bite on while putting his collar on....:D j/k
 
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Flea collars only work around the head and shoulder area, so they aren't doing much for the rest of the body. I'll agree with everyone else, use the drops, but most of the ones that you buy from a store don't work well either. I would recommend Frontline Plus.
 
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I also bath her as much as I can, and its been weekly now since i've left school, Also i have flee Powder too,
i have to use the hose trick and then turn it off, and soap her up, because she won't go in a bath! she DOESN'T SEEM TO MIND COLD WATER. unfortuantly i don't think she gets the worming she should because my family except me, believe Dogs & Cats don't get HEART WORM. & also because it is too expensive!
 
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Is it that the dog is hyper or just frightened, if she is frightened the best bet might to show her that there is nothing to be afraid of. You should try to comfort her as much as possible, or attempt to slip the color on unnoticed, when she is asleep may be a good time. Continuously use the collar, regardless of its effectiveness to help her get used to wearing one, that way you won't have to worry about hurting her when in doing so. Hope it works!
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encouraging_angels1 said:
mY dOG, she is impossible ot get the flee collar on!
I have to push her into a corner or water pipe and push her against the wall while I gewt the flee collar on because if I don't and try to do it away form the wall she will start to try and bite me!

DOes anyonew have nay other ideas?
Sorry if I have responded a bit late I didn't see this until now.

It sound like your dog does not view you as pack leader. In consequence she does not trust you to make the decision whether or not she will wear something around the neck. Handling the dogs neck is a sign of dominance, without first establishing that you are alpha your bound to have problems.

Before I move on I suppose I should tell you that I have studied dog behavior and taught training classes for 4-H kids for 6 years, and have trained my own GSDs for 10. In a rural area no less, so aggression and unruliness are common cases for me.

Also I suggest you stop the attempted bites as soon as possible, this behavior will turn towards others if not stopped, she may not hold back next time, most dogs don't miss unless its just a warning.

Ok I'll tell you how I would approach the situation, but without seeing the behavior for myself it is difficult to put a specific plan of action for the dog, but when dealing with aggresion every case I've dealt with has to do with dog and owner misinterpreting each others roles and behaviors.

Start by evaluating and changing behaviors seen as submisive to the dog. Like...

Serving the dog its food, meaning the dog generally eats first and the dog does not have to wait to stick her head in the bowl, or you simply fill it whether the dog is present or not. The dog needs to wait, you should eat first even if its just a cracker or chip as you carry the bowl to her, also the dog must recognize that you own the food, as if you had hunted it down and killed it, meaning only when you set it down and walk away from the bowl can the dog start in. You don't have to teach commands or obedience, simply block her way by standing in front of her don't let her move in until she stops trying to go around and looks to you instead, then walk away, she'll know it her turn then.

When entering or returning to an area/room giving attention immediately to the dog, no matter what kind of attention it is, the dog interprets this as your way of showing that she has a higher ranking than you. When you enter a room/area always ignore the dog for a few minutes,when the dog is obviously calm and not pleading for attention in some way then you call the dog to you, alphas should not have to move toward lower ranking pack members, when summoned (however it is you do it) they come.

Also your mere presence and body language can tip a dog off to whether you hold the position of alpha or not.

I'm not sure how often you walk/exercise can ask what your routine is with your dog?

Anyway you should make sure she's had a good walk before trying to put on the collar. Does she have problems with all collars or just the flea collar?

Ok I realize that didn't have much to do with the putting on the flea collar but changing things like that will help tremendously. And now on to the flea collar. To prepare you may just want to carry the flea collar around for a while, so the dog does not see the appearance of the flea collar as a sign something will happen, also pet the dog with the flea collar in the other hand, then walk away a few times.

1- enter the room as if nothing is going on, DO NOT I repeat DO NOT even think about the coming event, the dog needs to feel that nothing bad is going on
2- sit down a pray for a little while, this has always helps.
3- when you are ready call the dog to you
4- if the dog has no problem with other collars first put on a different collar, and attach a leash, then you wont have to corner her
5- visualize that it will go smoothly pray some more
6- move the dog so its side is facing you, if you are face to face with the dog this is seen as a challenge sometimes not always but we don't want any chances of misinterpretation.
7- pause for second make sure your dog is still calm if you dog elevates to anticipation or exitedness wait for her to calm down, she will trust nothing if she is not calm.
8- if you have a leash make sure you have it but do not put tension on it, if not make sure you have a towel or pillow ready
9- if you can get her to lie down on her side, this is not only a calm position but a submissive position. You may want to kneel next to her but make sure you are not looming over her.
10- when she submits to this position reward her with affection but only when it is obvious she realizes she can't move.
11- with the flea collar in your hand reach toward the dog as if to pet it, so not to fast, not too slow, nice easy calm pace. this entire time you exude a calm peace and it must not be a cover, dogs see through covers, and will not trust you if you aren't calm.
12- if the dog tries to bite she must be disciplined, this why its easier with a leash, put her head back down and use your other hand to take her legs out from under her if she stood or repositioned on to her stomach, you wont hurt her. if you don't have the leash it will be much more difficult you'll have to use the pillow or towel to protect yourself as you try to reposition her. in either case she is not allowed to lift her head untill she submits to being put in the position again.
13- hopefully she did not try to bite if she did you may want leave the room and start at step 1 all over again but you could probably get away with starting at 7 again.
14- after succesfully buckling the collar you may reward with a treat, affection or a toy but you MUST NOT excite her, this process is to be left calm, there is a time to be excited and a time to be calm. If you excite her she may forget all she's learned or try to regain her dominance.

That is probably the longest post ever, but most of the time I do half hour or hour long sessions with small groups and their dogs so I always have a lot to say on the subject.

I also realize that I gave you a lot to read and you may not have experience or you may have been trained differently just PM me and I will try to get back to you as soon as possible if you have questions, concerns, or want to know in more detail reasoning behind certain steps.

I can also give you suggested reading if you like, many of my methods are derived from books, but perfected by experience.

P.S. I don't use flea collars I use Advantage, or simply use a flea comb and soapy water. Also dogs with weakened immune systems are more prone to fleas so vitamin supplements might also help.

I will pray for you and your dog:prayer:
May God grant your dog full trust in you, so you may care for it as the loving owner you are:amen:
 
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Whitehorse said:
Wow-thanks for the tips! I have a GSD too, and she's a sassy miss! I do give her too much attention and have been feeding her first-I'll try your suggestions, too.

I love helping people out with dogs, I invite anyone to PM me with questions.

I do want to mention its not necessarily amount of attention that is the issue but timing of the affection. Those lower in ranking are expected to give attention whenever, as sign of submission, alphas give affection when the lower ranking has done good. Its true that alpha dogs give very little affection, but I've got too much love for my dog to keep it all in^_^
May all your days with your dog be happy and joyous:pray:
 
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encouraging_angels1 said:
I have been taking her collars off to get her used to me putting it on here, she is now no where as nipish as she was, i successed twice this week to get it on and off her without nipping!, she not over it yet though.

That's awesome, be encouraged, things take time, the faster you let go of the memory or anticipation of nipping, the faster she will, but trust is earned by actions, the more times you succesfully put on the collar without incident the more trust you will have earned.

and if things are going so well so quickly that means you've definitely done something right. Good job, many people I've taught take months to understand and use the techniques:thumbsup:
 
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Whitehorse said:
Encouraging angels, that's great!



Thanks-I think I shall! :) I tried your tips today and today Radar was quiet and sweet.
That's great, I recommend you watch the Dog Whisperer on National Geographic channel. This guy has the best techniques for normal dog owners, and I've seen every type of dog on this show too, from fear aggressive, to dominat aggressive, extremely hyper, dogs with strange neurotic behaviors, to normal dogs who take to much control over the owner.

Having a controlled relationship with your dog just seems so much more rewarding because the dog doesn't take so much from you but compliments you as a companion instead and you are still able to give the dog the love and affection you want to.
May all of you have wonderfull happy times with your pets:)
 
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mythrainbow said:
That's great, I recommend you watch the Dog Whisperer on National Geographic channel. This guy has the best techniques for normal dog owners, and I've seen every type of dog on this show too, from fear aggressive, to dominat aggressive, extremely hyper, dogs with strange neurotic behaviors, to normal dogs who take to much control over the owner.

Having a controlled relationship with your dog just seems so much more rewarding because the dog doesn't take so much from you but compliments you as a companion instead and you are still able to give the dog the love and affection you want to.
May all of you have wonderfull happy times with your pets:)

Thanks! Will do! I have some food questions, but I'll send those pm.
 
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Robinfanandbeastboyfan said:
I have a German Shepherd.I think that my brothers and I feed her too much.Now she is on a diet,but is still loved.
GSD's are great, I think I will always try and have a gsd as long as I live^_^
My mom put her cocker on a diet but it doesn't work becuase everyone else in the family gives him scraps from the table. Its always been easy for my to train a dog, but I find it impossible to train my family:eek: Oh well I still love my family, and they still love their dogs:D
 
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