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Okay, thanks. Out of curiosity: what is the Orthodox definition of the heresy of ecumenism? Perhaps allowance of idol worship in sacred spaces is an example of the heresy, but what is the definition of the heresy?
Short answer: Fr. Matt was speaking about an uninformed layman.
The problems of papal arbitration are legion, but that doesn't mean that popes are incapable of heresy, or that the Pope is owed slavish obedience.
Your sources aren't talking about heresy. Without digging up the academic sources, I could just refer you to Edward Feser who has written on this a few times in recent years. Here is a relevant post:
[An] exceptional situation might arise were a pope to become a public heretic, i.e., were he publicly and officially to teach some doctrine clearly opposed to what has been defined as de fide catholicâ… n this case many theologians hold that no formal sentence of deposition would be required, as, by becoming a public heretic, the pope would ipso facto cease to be pope.
(Feser quoting the Catholic Encyclopedia)
We rely on what we believe to be instituted by Christ. We don't believe in a man-made institution and we don't decide ourselves how to make it. Similar and other problems exist on Conciliarism.
Nickles and dimes. Problematic leaders are indicative of problematic cultures, and problematic cultures influence institutions just as much as they influence leaders. A strong central authority can impede or catalyze problematic cultures (e.g. Pope Paul VI). The idea that you're going to solve these issues by way of systemic considerations is fundamentally flawed (and, ironically, strongly modern in character).
If and when the synod devolves you will have the same exact problems. 'Synodality' isn't a cure for evil.
But Father, aren't the Orthodox bishops who assisted to the event guilty of the same sins as Pope John Paul II?going there to talk is fine, anything else is wrong.
plus, it only showed what a heretic Pope John Paul II was, and how enticing the heresies of ecumenism and secularism are.
these kinds of things make my stomach turn.
But Father, aren't the Orthodox bishops who assisted to the event guilty of the same sins as Pope John Paul II?
I just thank Our Lord that the church, is indeed, much bigger than one man, one Pope, or several Popes!
Sure, Father. Nevertheless, they were participants of the act.
Isn't someone who participates equally responsible?
Why aren’t they equally responsible in this case, considering that they sang prayers along side every other religion?not always.
Why aren’t they equally responsible in this case, considering that they sang prayers along side every other religion?
So is it okay to pray together with Pagans and Infidels (Monotheists who reject Christ?)because they weren't the ones putting idols on their own altars.
So is it okay to pray together with Pagans and Infidels (Monotheists who reject Christ?)
That is simply a rehash of the "No true Scotsman" fallacy[An] exceptional situation might arise were a pope to become a public heretic, i.e., were he publicly and officially to teach some doctrine clearly opposed to what has been defined as de fide catholicâ… n this case many theologians hold that no formal sentence of deposition would be required, as, by becoming a public heretic, the pope would ipso facto cease to be pope.
(Feser quoting the Catholic Encyclopedia)
Didn't the Eastern Orthodox Bishops do this?no, but that wasn't your initial question.
Didn't the Eastern Orthodox Bishops do this?
There's an interesting event in the Bible that speaks about one situation where this happens. 2 Kings 5:17-19So is it okay to pray together with Pagans and Infidels (Monotheists who reject Christ?)
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