contrails or chemtrails

farmer joe · Mar 4, 2012

farmer joe · Mar 4, 2012

Rosalind Peterson: The Chemtrail Cover-Up - YouTube
Sorry, this is what I meant to come up.

Nabobalis · Mar 4, 2012

They are contrails from planes. Nothing else.

Incariol · Mar 6, 2012

The Magic School Bus explained how this works. I think it was the episode where they explain the precipitation cycle.

GrowingSmaller · Mar 6, 2012

I reckon that the government will have tried to control the weather. After all what does it not want to control? But I seriously doubt there's some big cover up and conspiracy.

farmer joe · Mar 6, 2012

GrowingSmaller said:
I reckon that the government will have tried to control the weather. After all what does it not want to control? But I seriously doubt there's some big cover up and conspiracy.

It isn't a conspiracy, its really happening. Definition of conspiracy= an evil, unlawful, treacherous,or surreptitous plan formulated in secret by two or more persons, plot.
Now explain to me why we have laws and treaties with other countries saying we will not modify the weather for war puposes. Did we make laws for cars before we even had cars? We made these laws because we already have these capabilities. Research haarp project, cloud seeding, Evergreen aviation. Just because the mainstream media hasn't reported on this , why do people not believe it? I get labeled the guy with the tin foil hat , while they walk around with their invisible dunce hats. Their egos taking over their souls. Worse part is, they never go outside and watch the sky. When you see these so called contrails, watch for a few hours and see what some of them turn into. Some planes do have normal contrails, the ones spraying the aersol do not. Watch the planes in the sky, perferably during a blue sky or at least some blue sky, and watch the so called contrails slowly expand and more planes and trails and expanding trails, until a white sky gets formed. You can even catch them turning the sprayers on and off. A real contrail will stay about 20 to 40 yards behind the plane and completely disipate. The aerosol spraying does not do that. Watch and learn!!!!

idscience · Mar 6, 2012

farmer joe said:
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I have researched this for a few years, I didn't believe the conspiricy of chemtrails in the beginning either. I finally started watching the skies and was amazed that they were right. I am still confused on the reason for it. Some say its for: helping with global warming, for defense and the darpa project, for the haarp project and weather control, for modifying our dna(morgellons disease?), for population control, and for protecting us from radiation.
With all the weird weather events goin on, like drought, tornadoes, earth quakes, etc... , it makes me wonder whether its protecting us from something or hurting us on purpose. Does anyone else know why?
If you don't believe they are spraying some type of aerosol in the skies, I am not here to argue about it. If you do believe they are, do you have any idea why?

Don't embed the video, just copy paste address bar. the site does the rest.
Rosalind Peterson: The Chemtrail Cover-Up - YouTube

Nabobalis · Mar 7, 2012

They are contrails, there is nothing else to discuss.

farmer joe · Mar 12, 2012

idscience said:
Don't embed the video, just copy paste address bar. the site does the rest.

Thank you for the tip.

farmer joe · Mar 12, 2012

Nabobalis said:
They are contrails, there is nothing else to discuss.

Ok, we will call them contrails just for the sake of it.. Now why have these contrails, suddenly in the past few years, started expanding in the sky to form man made clouds or sometimes just a white or hazy sky. Has the sky become a major highway? Its now normal to have dozens upon dozens of contrails lingering in the sky for hours while expanding enough to block the sun. I don't remember these contrails doing any of the above during my 50 years of living. I also remember beautiful blue skys with no haze for miles. No its not all pollution. Well in a way it is,
they are spraying this pollution out of their contrails and ruining what little sunny weather I do receive.Watch the sky and the planes, observe as much as you can about their expanding and lingering contrails. You will notice some planes with normal contrails and some lingering for hours and expanding to a big aersol like cloud. Watch thru-out the days and do it for a few months, and you tell me they are just contrails. Testing of our water and soil all show increases of this barium and aluminum. To deny any of this , is like keeping your head in the sand.

Blayz · Mar 12, 2012

farmer joe said:
Now why have these contrails, suddenly in the past few years, started expanding in the sky to form man made clouds or sometimes just a white or hazy sky.

Evidence please.

Its now normal to have dozens upon dozens of contrails lingering in the sky for hours while expanding enough to block the sun.

Evidence please.

No its not all pollution

Evidence please.

they are spraying this pollution out of their contrails and ruining what little sunny weather I do receive.

Evidence please.

You will notice some planes with normal contrails and some lingering for hours and expanding to a big aersol like cloud.

Evidence please.

Watch thru-out the days and do it for a few months, and you tell me they are just contrails.

They are just contrails.

Testing of our water and soil all show increases of this barium and aluminum. To deny any of this , is like keeping your head in the sand.

Evidence of this increase.

Evidence linking this increase to contrails.

Please.

Nabobalis · Mar 13, 2012

farmer joe said:
Ok, we will call them contrails just for the sake of it.. Now why have these contrails, suddenly in the past few years, started expanding in the sky to form man made clouds or sometimes just a white or hazy sky. Has the sky become a major highway? Its now normal to have dozens upon dozens of contrails lingering in the sky for hours while expanding enough to block the sun. I don't remember these contrails doing any of the above during my 50 years of living.

It is called the growth of the airline industry. So many planes fly now, just yesterday I was at the pub in the beer garden and about 10 planes flew over head and formed contrails. They spread slightly and then disappeared.

You are aware that clouds also block the sun? So why would contrails be any different? (Admittedly you'd need a large amount of contrails to get anywhere near the same size as a normal cloud.)

farmer joe said:
I also remember beautiful blue skys with no haze for miles. No its not all pollution. Well in a way it is, they are spraying this pollution out of their contrails and ruining what little sunny weather I do receive.Watch the sky and the planes, observe as much as you can about their expanding and lingering contrails. You will notice some planes with normal contrails and some lingering for hours and expanding to a big aersol like cloud. Watch thru-out the days and do it for a few months, and you tell me they are just contrails. Testing of our water and soil all show increases of this barium and aluminum. To deny any of this , is like keeping your head in the sand.

I've watched my fair share of contrails and none expand to block the sky, they expand slightly as they should due to air currents but never enough to ruin a lovely sunny day.

Like I said, both barium and aluminum are both in a solid state at room temperature. So what chemical are they spraying over us and why?

Nabobalis · Mar 13, 2012

Blayz said:
Evidence of this increase.

Evidence linking this increase to contrails.

Please.

So far the links I've been given, just state these "facts" with no evidence.

farmer joe · Mar 14, 2012

The video at the beginning shows what is happening. Alot, and I do mean alot of other people see it. No evidence I put up here will satisfy those that can not see it in the sky. Here we have white cars turning green from the stuff, of course the ones that do not know better just say it is algae. The 50 years i have lived here never turned cars green, or put a green slime on my tree's and tractors. If you want to deny it that is your belief. Eventually you will wake up and see it.

Nabobalis · Mar 14, 2012

farmer joe said:
The video at the beginning shows what is happening. Alot, and I do mean alot of other people see it. No evidence I put up here will satisfy those that can not see it in the sky. Here we have white cars turning green from the stuff, of course the ones that do not know better just say it is algae. The 50 years i have lived here never turned cars green, or put a green slime on my tree's and tractors. If you want to deny it that is your belief. Eventually you will wake up and see it.

Cars turning green? This gets better and better.

peggy sue · Mar 14, 2012

farmer joe said:
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I have researched this for a few years, I didn't believe the conspiricy of chemtrails in the beginning either. I finally started watching the skies and was amazed that they were right. I am still confused on the reason for it. Some say its for: helping with global warming, for defense and the darpa project, for the haarp project and weather control, for modifying our dna(morgellons disease?), for population control, and for protecting us from radiation.
With all the weird weather events goin on, like drought, tornadoes, earth quakes, etc... , it makes me wonder whether its protecting us from something or hurting us on purpose. Does anyone else know why?
If you don't believe they are spraying some type of aerosol in the skies, I am not here to argue about it. If you do believe they are, do you have any idea why?

when you find out let me know, i've witnessed this for years, even seen the chembows, if you have heard of them, and the starting and stopping of spraying, normally you would think when the engines quit the plane should lose altitude this plane flew a long ways and then BAM the "engines" chemtrail) started again...lol

peggy sue · Mar 14, 2012

Local news station confirms barium in chemtrails - YouTube looks like it happened here in arkanas too

Nabobalis · Mar 14, 2012

Barium is a solid metal at room temperature. How on earth is it dispersed in a while cloud (Not only that, if it is very finely ground, you shouldn't be able to see it)? Secondly, what use is it, why do they add it to the air? Thirdly, when was a guy who got a jar of water a legitimate source? Let alone when does a news channel decide that internet websites are sources of news?

So many fails, no facts.

Nabobalis · Mar 14, 2012

On side note, this does have a very interesting physics question, how do small particles disperse in a medium? Is it pure Brownian motion? What do the effects of flows in that medium have?

Does anyone have a link to a paper or several on the subject?

Blayz · Mar 14, 2012

farmer joe said:
The video at the beginning shows what is happening.

Youtube is a sewer. I don't swim in it.

Alot, and I do mean alot of other people see it.

Really? Is "alot" more or less than "many"? How many people have to see stuff before it makes it true? There are 2 billion people that believe in Allah. Does that make Islam true?

No evidence I put up here will satisfy those that can not see it in the sky.

You are incorrect. It ia the tinfoil hatters that can never be convinced. Us sane people change our minds when presented with decent evidence.

Neither youtube nor crappy personal websites count as evidence.

Here we have white cars turning green from the stuff

Of course you do. And I have a unicorn living in my bedroom.

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