Contraception?

[Guyfoo]

I have 2 questions.......

1(this is directed mainly at christians but anyone can join in) is if your teenage son or daughter was sexualy active and you could not stop them from having sex would rather thay used contraception? Seen as using contraception is a sin aswell.

2 Am i was just wondering, after reading one or two comments i learned that using contraception within a marriage is ok? Because i was alway under the impression that it wasn't(its why the irish had such big families) I thaught it was a sin for the same reason touching yourself and sodomy was a sin. Or is that just a catholic point of view. Now i know there could be a diffrence of opinions depending on how you see the bible but could you answer it in the context of the bible being strictly the word of god. Thank ya!

 

[Red530]

It's still sex, whether you use contraception or not. Within a marriage? I would think it's okay.

I've seen a Christian page that pleasing yourself is not a sin. *shrugs*

 

[The Nihilist]

It's still sex, whether you use contraception or not. Within a marriage? I would think it's okay.
I've seen a Christian page that pleasing yourself is not a sin. *shrugs*

Your position is not in line with that of the Vatican. It is the position of Rome that sex should always be done with an openness to creating a child. As a former Catholic, I feel comfortable saying that the general opinion about this is that it is stupid and unrealistic, and everyone just ignores it in the same way you just ignore an old person when they say something racist that used to be ok to say.

 

[Lynden1000]

I have 2 questions.......

1(this is directed mainly at christians but anyone can join in) is if your teenage son or daughter was sexualy active and you could not stop them from having sex would rather thay used contraception? Seen as using contraception is a sin aswell.

2 Am i was just wondering, after reading one or two comments i learned that using contraception within a marriage is ok? Because i was alway under the impression that it wasn't(its why the irish had such big families) I thaught it was a sin for the same reason touching yourself and sodomy was a sin. Or is that just a catholic point of view. Now i know there could be a diffrence of opinions depending on how you see the bible but could you answer it in the context of the bible being strictly the word of god. Thank ya!

Contraception is only considered a sin by the Roman Catholic Church. Protestants generally have no problem with its use.

Using contraception within marriage is not considered permissable in the Catholic Church. The only exception that I know of is the use of the birth control pill for medical reasons, such as shrinking ovarian cysts. That is considered okay because it is being used not for its contraceptive properties but because of its medicinal value. There is discussion about allowing the use of condoms in married couples where one partner has an STD, but as for now it's still not permissable.

Masturbation is still considered a sin.

As for anal sex, I'm not sure. I do know that for married couples where normal intercourse is, for whatever reason, not a physical possibility, anal sex cannot be used as a substitute. Such couples simply have to remain chaste.

 

[TinkaBella]

IMO:

1. No sex > protected sex > unprotected sex. When it comes to my own teenagers.
2. Unprotected sex > no sex if a couple wants to conceive. If they don't then protected sex > no sex.

 

[.Sabre.]

1. Abstinence is best, but because so many people(me included) do not remain chaste, contraception must remain an option.

2.Well, if they don't want children but do want to be sexually active, then they should use contraception.

 

[PassionFruit]

Yeah, I agree with Sabre, if you want to avoid STD's and pregnancy, abstinence is the sure way that you won't face pregnancy nor STD's.

But if you choose to engage in sexual activity, use contraception. When used correctly and consistently, it's highly effective.

 

[Athene]

1.If my teenage children were sexually active I'd be very unimpressed if they were not using contraception in the form of condoms.

2. I don't believe contraception use is a sin in marriage, there are people who do, catholics being one and some conservative Christians, as for me I want a large family but I don't want to expand beyond the capacity that I can afford, I'd need a bigger car which I can't afford at the moment so I am putting off having more children while I save up for a bigger car, some people may say I'm sinning by not trusting God with my fertility, I think I'm being a good steward.

 

[.Sabre.]

Yeah, I agree with Sabre, if you want to avoid STD's and pregnancy, abstinence is the sure way that you won't face pregnancy nor STD's.

But if you choose to engage in sexual activity, use contraception. When used correctly and consistently, it's highly effective.

Exactly.

 

[Lludmila]

I have 2 questions.......

1(this is directed mainly at christians but anyone can join in) is if your teenage son or daughter was sexualy active and you could not stop them from having sex would rather thay used contraception? Seen as using contraception is a sin aswell.

2 Am i was just wondering, after reading one or two comments i learned that using contraception within a marriage is ok? Because i was alway under the impression that it wasn't(its why the irish had such big families) I thaught it was a sin for the same reason touching yourself and sodomy was a sin. Or is that just a catholic point of view. Now i know there could be a diffrence of opinions depending on how you see the bible but could you answer it in the context of the bible being strictly the word of god. Thank ya!

Yeah, that is a Catholic posish.....

Contraception is only considered a sin by the Roman Catholic Church. Protestants generally have no problem with its use.

Using contraception within marriage is not considered permissable in the Catholic Church. The only exception that I know of is the use of the birth control pill for medical reasons, such as shrinking ovarian cysts. That is considered okay because it is being used not for its contraceptive properties but because of its medicinal value. There is discussion about allowing the use of condoms in married couples where one partner has an STD, but as for now it's still not permissable.

Masturbation is still considered a sin.

As for anal sex, I'm not sure. I do know that for married couples where normal intercourse is, for whatever reason, not a physical possibility, anal sex cannot be used as a substitute. Such couples simply have to remain chaste.

As stated by me before, that is a Catholic position, engendered by tradition; the Bible says nothing of the sort.

I do believe that Jesus would smile upon large families. BUT -- I think that if a couple were to endanger the wife's life with a pregnancy, contaception would be perfectly fine.

Or if the couple wanted no [more] children, that it would be no sin. (Though maybe not God's ideal).

For myself, the use of contraception makes my sex no more or no less right.

 

[Red530]

Your position is not in line with that of the Vatican. It is the position of Rome that sex should always be done with an openness to creating a child. As a former Catholic, I feel comfortable saying that the general opinion about this is that it is stupid and unrealistic, and everyone just ignores it in the same way you just ignore an old person when they say something racist that used to be ok to say.

Did I ever say that I agreed with the Vatican?

 

[Rebekka]

1. I don't want kids, but if I had them (I'm against abortion, I don't abstain - I'm married - and I know that no form of birth control is 100% safe, so if I became pregnant I would keep the child) I wouldn't want them to be having premarital sex. I wouldn't want to totally control them and they have free will, so if they decided to have premarital sex despite their upbringing (in which I would advise abstinence until marriage), then I couldn't stop them. I do hope that my non-existing children would only have sex with someone they truly love and preferably spend the rest of their lives with. And as long as they are minors and aren't able to support a child, I'd prefer that they used contraception. I'd be really worried about STDs too by the way.

2. I'm catholic but I think contraception in marriage is fine, I can't agree with my church's stand on birth control. Husband and I are childfree for very good reasons (no, not "selfish" ones - we don't want a second car or expensive holidays or whatever, money has nothing to do with it - but even if our reasons were selfish, so what?! You can't force someone to have children if they really don't want to.), and having children just out of catholic guilt is not a good idea.

 

[christalee4]

I have 2 questions.......

1(this is directed mainly at christians but anyone can join in) is if your teenage son or daughter was sexualy active and you could not stop them from having sex would rather thay used contraception? Seen as using contraception is a sin aswell.

2 Am i was just wondering, after reading one or two comments i learned that using contraception within a marriage is ok? Because i was alway under the impression that it wasn't(its why the irish had such big families) I thaught it was a sin for the same reason touching yourself and sodomy was a sin. Or is that just a catholic point of view. Now i know there could be a diffrence of opinions depending on how you see the bible but could you answer it in the context of the bible being strictly the word of god. Thank ya!

In addition to contraception, "safe sex" practices must be taught to teens, as well as educated to them within a relationship framework.

Teens need to be communicated with (even though some of them hate it), educated, be given respect, as well as responsibility.

Teens need to have ALL of the information, as well as guidance.

 

[Lludmila]

1. I don't want kids, but if I had them (I'm against abortion, I don't abstain - I'm married - and I know that no form of birth control is 100% safe, so if I became pregnant I would keep the child) I wouldn't want them to be having premarital sex. I wouldn't want to totally control them and they have free will, so if they decided to have premarital sex despite their upbringing (in which I would advise abstinence until marriage), then I couldn't stop them. I do hope that my non-existing children would only have sex with someone they truly love and preferably spend the rest of their lives with. And as long as they are minors and aren't able to support a child, I'd prefer that they used contraception. I'd be really worried about STDs too by the way.

2. I'm catholic but I think contraception in marriage is fine, I can't agree with my church's stand on birth control. Husband and I are childfree for very good reasons (no, not "selfish" ones - we don't want a second car or expensive holidays or whatever, money has nothing to do with it - but even if our reasons were selfish, so what?! You can't force someone to have children if they really don't want to.), and having children just out of catholic guilt is not a good idea.

Rebekka, Great post...reps on the way.

 

[gengwall]

1. If they are truly determined to be sexually active, I would reluctantly support contraceptive use. Luckily, I don't have irresponsible children.

The Roman Catholic church and some fringe denominations and movements consider contraception to be sinful. There is no biblical support for such a notion.

The same is true for masturbation (although many more Christians are against masturbation than are against contraception).

The same is true for anal sex (although the numbers climb significantly in the "against" group).

The bible doesn't condemn any sexual acts, only sex participants. Marriage creates the only participant approved sexual relationship.

FYI We discussed at some length the various Christian positions on contraception back in this thread.

 

[Peach81]

I have 2 questions.......

1(this is directed mainly at christians but anyone can join in) is if your teenage son or daughter was sexualy active and you could not stop them from having sex would rather thay used contraception? Seen as using contraception is a sin aswell.

I am not a Christian, I do not believe in the concept of sin, and yes, I would sleep well at night if my teenager was using contraception. Having sex at a young age may not be the smartest thing in the world, but it should not have to ruin a young person's future either.

2 Am i was just wondering, after reading one or two comments i learned that using contraception within a marriage is ok? Because i was alway under the impression that it wasn't(its why the irish had such big families) I thaught it was a sin for the same reason touching yourself and sodomy was a sin. Or is that just a catholic point of view.

I think using contraception is permissable with most Christians, but there are still a few who still think sex for pleasure, even within a marriage, is sinful, and that is also sinful to waste a man's seed. A very medieval way of thinking, but it still exists among some Christians.

 

[Lludmila]

I am not a Christian, I do not believe in the concept of sin, and yes, I would sleep well at night if my teenager was using contraception. Having sex at a young age may not be the smartest thing in the world, but it should not have to ruin a young person's future either.


I think using contraception is permissable with most Christians, but there are still a few who still think sex for pleasure, even within a marriage, is sinful, and that is also sinful to waste a man's seed. A very medieval way of thinking, but it still exists among some Christians.

The last part of your post made me chuckle. Some Christians I know seem to be against wasting a woman's egg, too.

 

[MarcusHill]

The last part of your post made me chuckle. Some Christians I know seem to be against wasting a woman's egg, too.

Great, now I've got gross images of people saving their female sanitary products for posterity...

 

[Ryal Kane]

If my (hypothetical) children were having sex then I certainly would want them using protection. I'd probably be a lot more annoyed at the 'unprotected' part than the 'sex' part (assuming they're past the age of consent, which is another can of worms.

As an atheist I see no trouble with contraception.

Although I can't help but go when I hear stories of unmarried catholic girls who get pregant because using contraception would be a sin.

 

[.Sabre.]

If my (hypothetical) children were having sex then I certainly would want them using protection. I'd probably be a lot more annoyed at the 'unprotected' part than the 'sex' part (assuming they're past the age of consent, which is another can of worms.

As an atheist I see no trouble with contraception.

Although I can't help but go when I hear stories of unmarried catholic girls who get pregant because using contraception would be a sin.

Quite, and that is why I am against abstinence-only sex ed.