Continental Drift

[Stormy]

nbkan67: When God commands you to speak, don't even let a Bear in your path Stop you!


I am listening and I agree!!

 

[nbkan67]

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[lithium.]

Originally posted by Stormy
nbkan67: When God commands you to speak, don't even let a Bear in your path Stop you!


I am listening and I agree!!

i disagree

 

[TheBear]

Hey, Stormy.

When you get it together enough to figure out that this is not a 'statement board' and not a lectern, and that this is a DISCUSSION board, maybe you will be able to figure out that any discussion or debate follows a logical path.

Stop putting words into God's mouth.

You either have something to contribute to the discussion of Continental Drift and how it may or may not dispell the 10,000 year old earth scheme, or, you will start another thread, 'discussing' anything you want. If you don't care about this subject, or if it's way over your head, I suggest you post your divisive comments elsewhere.

Got it?

Back on topic: Continental Drift.

 

[npetreley]

Originally posted by TheBear
Contintental Drift proves to me beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the earth is much, much older than a mere 10,000 years.

How does it prove that? Just because you know the rate of continental drift since it has been measured doesn't tell you it has always been the same. You may believe it has always been the same, but that's faith, not proof.

 

[TheBear]

Originally posted by npetreley
How does it prove that? Just because you know the rate of continental drift since it has been measured doesn't tell you it has always been the same. You may believe it has always been the same, but that's faith, not proof.

If I understand you correctly, you are asserting that continental drift speeds up at times, and slows down at times. Is this correct?

(BTW, I am not saying I disagree with this. I just want to get a grasp of where you are coming from.)

 

[TheBear]

npetreley,

Are you saying that you have evidence that shows continental drift, pointing to a young earth?

 

[Morat]

How does it prove that? Just because you know the rate of continental drift since it has been measured doesn't tell you it has always been the same. You may <B>believe</B> it has always been the same, but that's faith, not proof.

&nbsp; *hehehehehe*. Can anyone spot the irony? Nicky: Did you ask the important question? "Do scientists think the rate of continental drift is always the same?"

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[TheBear]

Originally posted by Morat
&nbsp; *hehehehehe*. Can anyone spot the irony? Nicky: Did you ask the important question? "Do scientists thing the rate of continental drift is always the same?"

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Good point, Moart.

 

[npetreley]

Originally posted by TheBear
If I understand you correctly, you are asserting that continental drift speeds up at times, and slows down at times. Is this correct?

(BTW, I am not saying I disagree with this. I just want to get a grasp of where you are coming from.)

One theory is that the continents were spread very rapidly by whatever caused Noah's flood. I have no proof of that theory anymore than anyone has proof that drift has always been gradual. That's my point - your "proof" is really just faith based on how you interpret what you think is evidence. If I subscribed to the flood-related theory (I haven't researched it so I am not in a position to commit to that or any similar theory), then my conclusion would also be based on faith. I wouldn't say I had proof.

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by Stormy
nbkan67: When God commands you to speak, don't even let a Bear in your path Stop you!


I am listening and I agree!!

errr..but Stormy..NEVER EVER drop your gun to Hug a Grizzly Bear

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by npetreley
One theory is that the continents were spread very rapidly by whatever caused Noah's flood. I have no proof of that theory anymore than anyone has proof that drift has always been gradual. That's my point - your "proof" is really just faith based on how you interpret what you think is evidence. If I subscribed to the flood-related theory (I haven't researched it so I am not in a position to commit to that or any similar theory), then my conclusion would also be based on faith. I wouldn't say I had proof.

Since you freely admit you aren't familiar with either theory of continental drift and the current positions of the earth's continents, then how can you even comment on ANYONE'S conclusions who have studied the theories?

 

[Smilin]

Nick,
Explain the formation of the Appalachian and Rocky Mountains without using measured continental measured drift rates.

 

[Morat]

One theory is that the continents were spread very rapidly by whatever caused Noah's flood. I have no proof of that theory anymore than anyone has proof that drift has always been gradual. That's my point - your "proof" is really just faith based on how you interpret what you think is evidence. If I subscribed to the flood-related theory (I haven't researched it so I am not in a position to commit to that or any similar theory), then my conclusion would also be based on faith. I wouldn't say I had proof.

&nbsp; Nick, would you like to hear the gaping, huge, gigantic flaw in that "theory" (I use the term loosely, here)? Of course you do.

&nbsp;&nbsp; Because you're a smart man, who will undoubtably be furious with whatever lame source you got that from when you realize how easily they snowed you.

&nbsp;&nbsp; You see Nick, contintents moving around, well...there's a couple of things involved. One is "mechanism". Heck, lack of a mechanism is why continental drift languished for so many years. Now, do you know of a mechanism that'll shove continents around really fast? Noah's flood, you say. Fair enough, "How?"

&nbsp; But here's the big one, Nick. And this is important. To make that 'theory' work (yes, I have heard it) requires you to move the continents very fast indeed. Not millimeters or centimeters per year but meters per day or faster!

&nbsp;&nbsp; Now, Nick, bright boy that you are, can you tell me what's a byproduct of big slabs o'rock moving around like that, slamming into other slabs of rock, lifting and subducting and sliding? I mean, besides things like volcanos and massive earthquakes and tidal waves and the utter destruction of everything?

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; That's right, Nick! HEAT! Not just piddling, lame amounts of warmth, but absolute barrels of pure, unadulterated heat that would make a Texan wilt.

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; So much heat, in fact, that the "Flood" would have been better described as "broiling superheated steam" and the "Waters" Noah sailed on would better be called "molten rock".

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I mean, killing Noah off and rendering the Earth a molten mass with a boiling atmosphere kinda wasn't mentioned in the Bible. And darnit, I'm not sure even gopher wood could sail on magma.

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[lithium.]

http://www.zephryus.demon.co.uk/geography/resources/earth/tect.html

 

[TheBear]

Originally posted by npetreley
One theory is that the continents were spread very rapidly by whatever caused Noah's flood. I have no proof of that theory anymore than anyone has proof that drift has always been gradual. That's my point - your "proof" is really just faith based on how you interpret what you think is evidence. If I subscribed to the flood-related theory (I haven't researched it so I am not in a position to commit to that or any similar theory), then my conclusion would also be based on faith. I wouldn't say I had proof.

Interesting.....

What scientific theory asserts that the flood of Noah's time, caused catastrophic continental drift? Who authored it? When? Is this considered a credible hypothesis in the scientific community? Is this taught in any major university? Who did the research on this? What tests and observations were made, to support this?

Scientists, not me, find that impacts from large astroids may have had an effect on the rate of contintental drift, from time to time.

Also, I see the word 'belief' and 'faith' popping up in your responses. It sounds like you are attempting to reduce science to dogmas and unfounded statements of blind faith. That's a pretty pathetic way to make your case.

John

 

[Duane Morse]

Is friction and drag a factor in continental drift?

If so, then the drift today may be slower that the drift in the past.
Without accurate measurements of the drift of past times, then using the figures today may be misleading.

If what I think is correct, in that the earth underwent a physical pole-shift that caused the single land mass to break up and begin drifting, the drift probably was at its fastest just after the pole-shift. and the combination of friction and the continents crashing into each other has slowed the drift to what we measure today.

Using continental drift to determine the age of the earth seems like a waste of time.

 

[TheBear]

Using continental drift to determine the age of the earth seems like a waste of time.

It sure does determine an earth much older than 10,000 years. Doesn't it? I never said that continental drift could be used to accurately determine the age of the earth. I asked if it provided some clues.

And if this is such a waste of your time, why are you posting in this thread? Like I mentioned to another member, there are thousands of other threads you could be participating in, or maybe you could start a thread, that does not waste your time.

 

[notto]

One of the best confirmations of the theory of Continental Drift is the Hawaiian island chain. This allow us to see the affects of continental drift over a hotspot, the building of new mountains and islands, and their subsequent erosion to sea level as they become dormant.

This also demonstrates the uniformity of these processes because both the building and erosion that is shown is slow and constant and is affected by the relatively uniform sea level over time.

http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/GG/HCV/haw_formation.html
(click here for pretty PICTURES and GRAPHS)

 

[lithium.]

great post notto. The Hawaiian island's really are a good confirmations of Continental Drift.