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Sure, just realize that has absolutely nothing to do with the Constitutional requirements for the presidency. Fact is, Barack Sr. abandoned his son when he was 2, and met him again only once when the boy was 10. Saying that he "belonged" to his father is laughable given the circumstances, much less that it has any impact in our legal system.
At birth, he was meant to be God's reward to his Father. Whether his Father accepted and respected God's reward was up to him.
I find it hard to believe that he completely abandoned his son. His son led a rich life, going to the finest schools for his education. Where did the money come from?
The Bible doesn't outright define "Natural Born". In order for our definition of Natural Born to be truly natural, however, we need to respect God's natural law that children are God's reward to their Fathers.
At birth, he was meant to be God's reward to his Father. Whether his Father accepted and respected God's reward was up to him.
I find it hard to believe that he completely abandoned his son. His son led a rich life, going to the finest schools for his education. Where did the money come from?
Maybe I was mistaken to believe that "Natural Born" was not a legal term. It is a legal term, but it's meaning is derived from Natural Law. It has a real meaning, and it's meaning cannot be changed by Human Law.
...and God's reward to his mother, equally.
Regardless, you are also a bit mistaken in regards to the emphasis you've placed on fatherhood at the expense of motherhood. I realize you're probably coming from a KJV standpoint, but regardless- Women have as much importance and significance in a child's life as the father does. In situations like mine and thousands of others, they have more.
My standpoint doesn't emphasize fatherhood at the expense of motherhood. Mothering is important, certainly.
The issue is what makes a person a "natural born citizen", or as I would say, "a person made a citizen at birth by God". You were made a citizen of your Father's nation at birth by God, because you were God's reward to your Father. Not all men can become citizens in their wife's country. God would want a man's country to accept his children as citizens, because God wants men to raise their children.
Countries can recognize other forms of birthright citizenship, of course, but those are legal, not natural.
My standpoint doesn't emphasize fatherhood at the expense of motherhood. Mothering is important, certainly.
The issue is what makes a person a "natural born citizen", or as I would say, "a person made a citizen at birth by God". You were made a citizen of your Father's nation at birth by God, because you were God's reward to your Father. Not all men can become citizens in their wife's country. God would want a man's country to accept his children as citizens, because God wants men to raise their children.
Countries can recognize other forms of birthright citizenship, of course, but those are legal, not natural.
Well...since you haven't shown you're right about any of this it seems we mere mortals are more then capable of determining who is or isn't a "natural born citizen" of our country.
tulc(needs more coffee soon!)
Especially when, while using Old Testament reasoning, he hasn't explained why being Jewish is tracked through the mother, not the father as he claims the Bible calls for.
And you can prove this theory using American law?
tulc(just wondering)
So..Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson,, Herbert Hoover, Woodrow Wilson, James Buchanan and Chester Arthur were all not President's either?
tulc(back from the wilds of western Illinois)
And you can prove this theory using American law?
tulc(just wondering)
No,<irrelevance snipped>
Excellent, glad we've wrapped that up. /thread
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