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Constantine the Great did not ride on the white horse

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silbadaavgi

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OK. here we go.



The 2nd horseman (in the historicist view) is Charles the Great who
founded the Holy Roman Empire. He rode a red horse and conquered with a
great sword (or lance, see Rev. 6:3-4)



It should also be noted that both Constantine's Byzantine Empire and the
the Holy Roman Empire lasted 1000 years, as did Israel, the first chosen
people.



The 3rd horseman is King james who rode a black horse and conquered with
economics (6:5-6).



The 4th horseman (IMO) is George Washington who rode a pale horse. His
successors brought us mass death (i.e. the nuclear bomb).



Adding further proof, the seven stars of ch. 1 form 21 vectors which
circle the earth and point to many things foretold. One vector points to
Rome, another to Constantinople (Constantine's capitals). Another vector
points to Versailles (where Charles the Great was crowned). One vector
points to London (King James' capital). Another vector forms a great
circle that points to New York, Philadelphia and Washington, DC, the 3
historical capitals of the USA.



For more on the starguide, etc. check out www.geocities.com/bmidyet



Barry



First of all, when you set about to expound Scripture you have got to let
Scripture itself be the key, for the way it uses images must be the
guideline and not only rough guesses like yours.



The seven seals cannot be expounded correctly without taking all relevant
verses in Revelation into account, as, for instance, the fact from Rev 12
that the woman was first seen in heaven, before the red beast came and
took her place. This chapter gives the frames within which you must
understand the seven seals and also the seven trumpets.



When Rev 6:3-4 tells that after the white horse there came another one
which was fiery red and the rider of which had a large sword and was given
to take peace frome earth and make men slay each other, it does fit what
happened to Christianity through the commotion that Arios gave rise to in
the church, and so does the contents of Rev 8:8-9:



"The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain,
all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood,
a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships
were destroyed."



This was the start of the falling-away in Christianity. The white horse
was the time when true Christianity was still on earth, but what was
foretold in 1 John 2:18-19 was about to happen:



"Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the
antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we
know it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they did not really
belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained
with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us."



Antichrist should wage war against the saints and wind, as foretold in Rev
13:7:



"He was given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them.
And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation."



For in this way should is 2 Thes 2:7 fulfilled:



"For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one
(Christ and his church) who now holds it back will continue to do so till
he is taken out of the way."



This is in harmony with the contents of the first three trumpets, for when each of them is sounded there is 1/3 being destroyed, so when it has happened three times all is destroyed and the falling-away fulfilled. That is why the five first seals and trumpets are included in the first woe - for the great and terrible falling-away is a WOE to the whole world.



So, your guess at Constantine the Great does not hold water if measured
with Scripture.



With kind regards

the witness of God

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Tha fact remains that Constantine rode a white horse, and in Rome's official processions, parades, etc. he rode in a chariot pullded by white horses. And he conquered all the known world for Jesus and His Church (after being commanded to by Jesus in a dream). There is no one else that fits the facts (of Rev. 6:1-2).

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Tha fact remains that Constantine rode a white horse, and in Rome's official processions, parades, etc. he rode in a chariot pullded by white horses. And he conquered all the known world for Jesus and His Church (after being commanded to by Jesus in a dream). There is no one else that fits the facts (of Rev. 6:1-2).

Barry

A white horse symbolizes truth, as can be seen at many places in Scripture, e.g.:

Revelation 19:11
I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war.

Revelation 19:14
The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean.

There is no other person to be called FAITHFUL AND TRUE than Jesus Christ alone, so that is why the rider on the white horse in Rev 6:2 is NOT Constantine the Great but our Saviour himself:

Revelation 6:2
"I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest."

Even though the rider on the white horse is said to ride out as a conqueror, which means warfare, there is still peace on earth until the second seal is opened and the fiery red horse come out. The white horse thus symbolizes the same period of time as the woman in Rev 12:1:

Revelation 12:1
"A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head."

Whereas the second fiery red horse symbolizes the same period of time as the dragon in Rev 12:4-5:

Revelation 12:4-5
"Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads. His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth."

Notice that the sign of the woman in heaven was WONDROUS (good), for her atonement and clothing was the sun, Christ himself, and under her foot was the moon which symbolizes the Holy Law. As long as you are not under the moon or Law you are not under condemnation, for your foundation IS then the moon or Law. Then you are a true member of the woman that symbolizes the Church of God, whose head is Christ, the foundation of the gospel that the twelve stars (the apostles) symbolize.

So, don't stray away from what Scripture tells us but keep close to it and believe it.

Best wishes from me
the witness of God
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