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, but these sermons are very well written and I think we could learn a good bit from them. See if they instrest you, write feedback if you read any. 
No thanks, I'm not into semi-pelagism.....tigersnare said:I know this is no one here...
http://www.faithtacoma.org/sermons/Romancath/roman.html
Yes, because Calvin's funny hat and tradition is the true means of interpreting the source of Christian authority
OrthodoxServant86 said:Yes, because Calvin's funny hat and tradition is the true means of interpreting the source of Christian authority
Not seeking to debate but unwilling to let low blows go unchecked,
-Justin
Now listening to: You never give me your money
Please do not presume to know what I have and have not read, such presumptions can be quite dangerous, especially if we are not speaking in the same terminology. I am indeed not seeking to debate for reasons of the rules, and I am not taking a cheap shot, I am simply letting it be known that big brother is watching and doesn't appreciate cheap shots such as the one I was addressing being taken.
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"Quite dangerous", this is almost as funny as making a threat online, the words just don't carry much weight when we realize we are typing in a little box to people we will probaby never see. But perhaps I took your comment to mean something other than what it did in fact mean.OrthodoxServant86 said:
Ok, so you just addressed a cheap shot, it just happened too look very simliar to the cheap shot you were addressing, to me.OrthodoxServant86 said:
Christ may have ordained his apostles to carry on His mission - but that ordination did not included perfection. The pope is held in highest regard and considered perfect - I disagree and it is not scriptural. Authority based on incorrect doctrine does not constitue apostolic succession. Sorry.knee-v said:
Behe's Boy said:
No, this wasn't a threat, merely an advisory for conversational etiquette's sake; we can't just go around making presumptions and accusations without substantial evidence, otherwise we gnaw away at the core of civility and cause it to collapse.
I have indeed read much of Jean Calvin's writings, namely his "Institution de la Religion Chretienne" (yes, in French, since it was in my school's library in this language).
You are absolutely correct; I apologize for having stated my grievance in such a rude and sarcastic manner. I hope you will forgive me.
tigersnare said:
Catholics do NOT regard Mary as equal to Jesus. Mary was a mere human, Jesus is GOD. We do however respect her as the mother of Jesus.
tigersnare said:
The Church (that is, the pre-schism Catholic Christian Church) did not teach that any person is perfect, but that as a whole, the Church's doctrines must be correct. I do believe that if this was not the case, then the 'gates of Hades' surely have prevailed against the Church - after all, the Church remained strong for around 1000 years.Behe's Boy said:
In Roman Catholicism, the pope is not seen as perfect, but a special role is given to him as 'spokesperson' if you like for the Church. Eastern Orthodox do not agree with papal infallibility as defined by the Roman Catholic Church, as they believe it is unscriptural and against Church tradition.Behe's Boy said:
This is an interesting one. From a purely objective standpoint, the RCC does have apostolic succesion from Peter, whether or not its doctrine is correct or not. From the Orthodox perspective, after the Great Schism, the see of Rome effectively left the Church, so their apostolic succession is not valid. This would in some ways agree with your point, though the Roman Catholic Church believes that the Church is divided, and that it is still part of the 'Church'.Behe's Boy said:
This is not true. Mary, in Roman Catholic doctrine, was free from sin (like Jesus), but she was not divine (as Jesus was). This comes mainly from the Roman Catholic doctrines of the nature of sin, i.e. that we all share the guilt of Adam's sin. This is contrary to the doctrines of the eastern Church, which teaches that we are not guilty of Adam's 'Original Sin', although because of Original Sin, we are suspectible to sin due to the sinful world around us.Behe's Boy said:
I am probably not the best one to explain this for you, but intercession does not equal worship. Catholics ask the saints to intercede in their prayer to God, in other words, to pray for them. This, in essence, is no different than asking anyone who is alive to pray for you. What would be idolatry is praying to the saints as though they were God, which is heresy, un-Biblical, and not Roman Catholic doctrine.Behe's Boy said:
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