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Confused about WOF

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plmarquette

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www.cfaith.com is a WOF web page with articles , a christian web browser, bible tools ...

I did my master's thesis debunking Hank Hannegraph's assertion about Word Of Faith churches ...

typically all of the "antiword-of-faith" stuff comes from the wrong spin on " decent and in order " , precipitated by some of the Rodney Howe Brown meetings and a few folks who had "flesh outs" during the services ...

tears are the medicine for pride , laughter is the medicine for abuse and travail , shaking in the reaction to our flesh at the presence of the Holy Spirit ...

Jesus said what is the fruit ? if people are being healed, delivered, and set free ... has to be God
 
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Can't Wikipedia be edited or flagged for misinformation? I think someone ought to get that fixed; it's highly unfair to Kenneth Copeland.

Even some from here have put correct info on there. But then someone who does not like us comes and changes it again to say what they thing about it. So we were told we might as well just forget it, it was a losing battle changing it back and forth.

The way to know what the true beliefs are is to listen to those who teach it. And I dont mean just once or twice or you don't get the full picture.
 
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I don't consider myself to be 'denominational', but I find myself sharing beliefs with the WOF movement/denomination. I also read books & listen to preaching by primarily WOF teachers, and it's grown me more than anything else.
I find it strange that people think that we have little to do with the Holy Spirit. Come to one of my church services and you'll think you walked in to the abode of the Holy Spirit!

What you're encountering (and what we are exposing) is a religious spirit that's moving through the global church. It aims to put believers into boxes, and have them full of pride so they think that they are the 'right' denomination, and start a mud-slinging competition (much like the NZ government). Non-believers see this, and they then get hardened and resistant to Christianity.
Am I right? Hmm? ;)

Yes you are right
 
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Hey GreenMunchkin. I understand your dilemma, as I struggled with it too.

I grew up on Kenneth Hagin Sr., Kenneth Copeland, K.C. Price, Watchman Nee, Smith Wigglesworth, and a few others. I never knew of "camps" or anything of the sort. The thought of it all still nauseates me. I was doing some research for my Life Group (home bible studies our church has) and came across this phrase "denominational affliction". That's what denomination is, imo, to the Body of Christ... an affliction.

I'm experiencing the "camp" mentality problem right now over something I said here in this WOF forum that has nothing to do with WOF specific beliefs, as I agree with WOF specific teaching. But because I did not choose the right icon, because I couldn't decide which one was correct to choose, being new here and being confused over all the options of this forum on so many levels.

Denominationalism certainly is "an affliction" as you said. And I stand by what I said in my post to the starter of this thread, the root problem with denominational "camp" mentality is pride. Pride of knowledge, pride of religion, and pride against others in the Body who "know in part and prophecy in part." Pride causes many in the different groups to think they know it all and prophecy it all, contrary to what Paul said and taught.

1 Corinthians 13:9 KJVR For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

This is why:

1 Corinthians 12:13-21 KJVR For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (14) For the body is not one member, but many. (15) If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? (16) And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? (17) If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? (18) But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him. (19) And if they were all one member, where were the body? (20) But now are they many members, yet but one body. (21) And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.

Having been a part of different denominations and parts of the restoration of truth including WOF, I can say from experience that there is a lot of religious pride that satan tempts people in each movement of restoration with. My understanding is rather that we need to glean and learn from the restored truth in each true restoration movement, and not "camp" out over one piece of restoration.

Great men of faith in modern times like Smith Wigglesworth and Kenneth Hagin were not the types to "camp out" and stop growing or moving forward in restoration of truth in our times. They were also not the types to be partaking in religious pride or pride of knowledge. Kenneth Hagin and I have similar gleaning testimonies, as we both were raised as children in the Baptist churches, but came over among the Pentecostals as the Spirit led us, and came over with WOF and other restoration truth points, growing and learning constantly as we go.

Those who do not do so, such as the Baptists we left behind that did not want to move on also, usually criticize us and think we've went into some "false" thing - some even say "of the devil." Religious pride. Pride of knowledge. Stagnant religion. Not good.

Thank you for your post,

David
 
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