Confession of sin?

[KingZzub]

I'm just glad that I am righteous. Eternally, utterly, irrevokably.

Blessings all,
|ZZ|

 

[Andrew]

You continually confuse terms, i.e. "...saved/righteous/forgiven.."

How so? I was simply making a point. Not equating these terms.

One again, yes you are made righteous when you're saved and yes you are forgiven.

But you clearly contradict this statement when you apply 1 Jn 1:9 to the believer's life.

Righteousness equates to being called by the name above all names. It is like your name was changed from Mr. Satan to Mr. Jesus as if you were adopted from one family to another.

It is a lot more than name changing.

This does not mean that all the Mr. Jesus' out there don't ever sin.

That's besides the point. Everyone knows we all still sin. But those who apply 1 Jn 1:9 don't seem to as much as those who don't.

This does not mean that you will remain free from the destruction of sin if you don't receive forgiveness by faith.

Sin destroys whether you "receive forgiveness by faith" or not. That is not the issue here. Sin has natural consequences. If you jump off a building you die. Nothing to do with whether you apply 1 Jn 1:9 or not.

This does not mean that you will remain in fellowship with God when you sin.

Another false doctrine. God does not leave you nor cut off fellowship with you just becos you sin. That would be to break covenant. We ourselves move away from God. God does not move away. Trust me, if He did, you will never find your way back.

This is why you must confess your sins. The Bible is abundantly clear on this point.

Based on one NC verse that has been misinterpreted?

This is nonsense. Obeying God's word is always good.

Provided you know what God's Word really says.

Confessing your sin keeps you in a position so that you can benefit from all of the good news.

So confession is a work by which you receive blessings? That's law.

You are in error. Being cleansed from all unrighteousness doesn't mean that you are living a righteousness life. You are again confusing scriptual paradigms.

This is not what is being said. This is what you choose to hear.

Let me see it does say:

1 John 1:9-10
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
NKJV

So I don't know which version you are reading.

Again, how many times in your life do you want to be cleansed from all unrighteousness and become righteous again? For me, once for all is good enough. That's how much I esteem the blood.

 

[TreeOfLife]

I'm just glad that I am righteous. Eternally, utterly, irrevokably.

Blessings all,
|ZZ|

Amen. Anything less is to accuse God of a job poorly done.

 

[God_Owned]

But you clearly contradict this statement when you apply 1 Jn 1:9 to the believer's life.

I'm not contradicting myself. You simply have chosen not to properly discern my statements to you.

It is a lot more than name changing.

No kidding? I was just trying to illustrate but one very simple point which I guess you completely missed.

That's besides the point. Everyone knows we all still sin. But those who apply 1 Jn 1:9 don't seem to as much as those who don't.

I've no idea what you are trying to say here.

Sin destroys whether you "receive forgiveness by faith" or not. That is not the issue here. Sin has natural consequences. If you jump off a building you die. Nothing to do with whether you apply 1 Jn 1:9 or not.

Sin does not destroy you when you receive forgiveness. The coarse of sin is stopped when you receive forgiveness, This is the point.

Another false doctrine. God does not leave you nor cut off fellowship with you just becos you sin. That would be to break covenant. We ourselves move away from God. God does not move away. Trust me, if He did, you will never find your way back.

Fellowship does not equal covenant. Cutting off fellowship is not breaking covenant. The Jones child does not change names or blood types when he does something wrong, but he is not in fellowship with his parents when he is acting contrary to their wishes. A child's good parents don't leave the child when the child does evil. Instead, they do all they can to correct the child. They do all they can to get the child to understand and admit when the child is wrong. The parents have not stopped being the child's parents when the child does evil. Rather, the child is out of fellowship with their parents until the child understands the error they are in. This will prevent the child from receiving benefits from the child's parents, like getting to use the car, until the child is restored to fellowship. In the extreme, the child may even be told to leave the home until they are ready to repent. This doesn't not mean that the child has lost his parents. The child's actions have simply cut off his access to the benefits that being his parents child affords him. Once the child demonstrates knowledge of their error, by repenting and confessing to their parents that they've been wrong and ask forgiveness, the child can receive the parental forgiveness which was always available and restoration of access to the benefits that have always been there as well. Until the child understands the error of their ways, they do not see a need for forgiveness. Until they see a need to be forgiven, they will continue to act in error and reap the rewards of their error.

So confession is a work by which you receive blessings? That's law.

This statement is absurd on its face. Receiving something by faith is not legalism. You, like many Christians, think it is works/legalism anytime you have to actually do anything to get something from God. like I said, wee have a ways to go together.

Andrew, I love you brother, but you are off the reservation on this one.

 

[Andrew]

Godown,

I see no point in debating with you any further.

I wish you best of luck in your confession of sins to remain righteous and forgiven.

 

[God_Owned]

completely understand.

Have a nice day.

 

[followjesus777]

Andrew the "strength" of YOUR POSITION is not in "YOURSELF"... but ONLY,ONLY, ONLY .... in The Strength of the Blood of the Lamb...WHERE IT BELONGS!!!!~~(those who "doubt" read Galations!!!~) PTL JESUS GLORY TO GOD!~
Be blessed!~

 

[Jesus Is Real]

God knew what we would chose, so in his Wrath He Swore even before the Seventh Day when He Rested and was Refreshed.

Then He started Scene One:
Genesis 1:

JESUS IS LORD HE ALWAYS HAS AND THIS LORD WE SERVE GIVES MAN A CHOICE AND IF IT'S TO BE BLESSED GOD WILL BLESS IF HE GIVES HIM REASONS TO BLESS. IF HE DOESN'T GIVE REASONS THE CURSE COMES ON HIM.

Josh 24:19-20
19 And Joshua said unto the people, Ye cannot serve the LORD: for he is an holy God; he is a jealous God; he will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins.

20 If ye forsake the LORD, and serve strange gods, then he will turn and do you hurt, and consume you, after that he hath done you good.
KJV

Matt 18:31-35
31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.

32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:

33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?

34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.

35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses. KJV

What is the Bad reasons?
Holy Scripture just said: "If ye Forsake" 75% of the Church has already forsaken Christ, only because they have been given a watered down Gospel.

What is the good reasons?
Holy Scripture just shown: Don't Forsake Him.

The Hivite Nation has so shown a Jesus, picking choising FROM HIS BLESSINGS (taking out all the warnings and throwing in a ~false security Gospel~ a mixture) that Can't do ANYTHING. They have so shown a false god who has not Sworn in His Wrath. But Moses shows THE TRUE GOD AND the One Who Jesus was a type of did: JESUS WHO WAS AND IS GOD.

JESUS IS LORD OR HE NOT YOURS.
FEAR GOD WHO MADE HEAVEN AND EARTH OR FEAR WILL COME UPON YOU IN THE SMALLEST WAYS.

 

[Jesus Is Real]

Ex 23:27-30
27 I will send my fear before thee, and will destroy all the people to whom thou shalt come, and I will make all thine enemies turn their backs unto thee.

28 And I will send hornets before thee, which shall drive out the Hivite, the Canaanite, and the Hittite, from before thee.

29 I will not drive them out from before thee in one year; lest the land become desolate, and the beast of the field multiply against thee.

30 By little and little I will drive them out from before thee, until thou be increased, and inherit the land.
KJV

Others will run and turn their back unto us, being Israel's Enemies as shown. Or if they have not Forsaken the Lord they will DRIVE OUT THE ENEMIES TOO.

In Jesus Name!

 

[Jesus Is Real]

I'm just glad that I am righteous. Eternally, utterly, irrevokably.

Blessings all,
|ZZ|

if

We all don't like the Bitter Herbs that God has us eat in the House while Destruction is happening all around us. But it was for An Everlasting Covenant, if we Forsaken NOT the Lord. I'm beginning to understand by The Grace of God given me that if we don't eat these bitter herbs are we even in the house with the Blood as protection. ((( I quake as a lowly prophet )))

It is one thing to read Scripture,...and another to be given Revelation of it through God's Spirit. It is no joking matter to me - I tremble in my own lowliness that which has been intrusted unto me.

 

[followjesus777]

if

sister...i say this lovingly and humbly...is our Lords sacrifice "insufficient"?....still requiring an "if" ....other than recieving "the gift"... which is "without repentance"?!~

Or is the Gift "SUFFICIENT" AND "WITHOUT REPENTANCE"??!~PTL JESUS!~AMEN!~

Love in Christ,
ysic,
lyn

 

[Andrew]

if

We all don't like the Bitter Herbs that God has us eat in the House while Destruction is happening all around us. But it was for An Everlasting Covenant, if we Forsaken NOT the Lord. I'm beginning to understand by The Grace of God given me that if we don't eat these bitter herbs are we even in the house with the Blood as protection. ((( I quake as a lowly prophet )))

It is one thing to read Scripture,...and another to be given Revelation of it through God's Spirit. It is no joking matter to me - I tremble in my own lowliness that which has been intrusted unto me.

Er, where in the New Covenant does God say that when there's destruction all around us, He wants us to eat bitter herbs He has prepared for us?

What were the bitter herbs for in the Passover?

To remind the Israelites of their sufferings in Egypt, their bondage to Pharoah. In the OT Egypt symbolises the world, and Pharoah, Satan.

So if you, as a Christian today, want to eat bitter herbs today in the Communion (even though Christ only gave the bread and wine), then besides remembering the Lord's death (which is what the Communion is about) you are also remembering your own sufferings and bondage to Satan, your slavery to sin.

Are you sure you want to mix in that in the Holy Communion (assuming you are talking about bitter herbs in this context) when you are supposed to remember CHRIST and HIS sufferings, and not yours? It is all about HIM and HIS perfect sacrifice, not about us.

Do Christians undergo sufferings? Of cse they do. But they aren't supposed to suffer things Christ already suffered for them. eg sickness.

The only suffering the Bible talks about for Christians, which is covered by Paul and Peter, is persecution for being a good witness for Christ. Eg your colleagues mock you for saying "Praise Jesus!" when something good happens. Or someone slaps you in the face becos you tried to preach the gospel to him. Those are the sufferings of a Christian. If you want to use the term "bitter herbs" to express this, fine. But it is not part of the Holy Comm. The Holy Comm is NOT one and the same thing as the Passover. One is pre-cross, the other is post-cross.

 

[God_Owned]

Jesus Christ is Himself the Passover lamb, offered up for the redemption and deliverance of His people (I Corinthians 5:7), the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world (John 1:29). The bread and wine speak of His death, and of the new covenant it ratifies, reconciling God and man. Jesus says "Do this in rememberance of Me" (Luke 22:19; I Corinthians 11:24-25), telling His disciples that the Passover is fulfilled in Him. Until He comes again (Luke 22:18; I Corinthians 11:26), we are to remember the significance of what He has done for us.

The following is a good format for the Communion of the New Testament Passover:

Initial Blessing of The Bread And The Wine
(Hold up the bread and the wine)

Father, in the name of Jesus, this cup of blessing, which we now bless, is our communion in the blood of Christ? This bread, which we break, is our communion in the body of Christ? (1 Cor 10:16 paraphrased) The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with us all. Amen. (2 Cor 13:14)


The Blessings Of The Bread
(Hold up the bread)

Lord Jeus, according to Matt. 26:26 and I Cor. 11:23-24, that same night when You were betrayed, You took bread, and when You had given thanks, You blessed it, broke it and gave it to Your disciples, saying,, “Take and eat, for this is my body which is broken for you.” Father Yahweh (the Almighty Creator), in the name of Jesus, we thank You for the anointing of Yahshua’s (Mighty God) flesh, which You made available to us through Jesus’s shed blood. We ask You for the anointing of Jesus’ body to come upon and possess this bread, for You said that this bread is Your flesh and we believe that this bread contains the anointing of Your flesh. When we eat this bread, we make manifest our oneness in You and share in Your divine health, which brings healing to our minds emotions and bodies.

The Blessings Of The Wine
(Hold up the wine)

Lord Jesus, according to Matt. 26:27-29, You took the cup, and gave thanks and gave it to them, saying, “Drink all of it; for this is My blood of the New Covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sin.” Afterwards, according to I Cor. 11:25, in the same way, Yeshua, You also took the cup, when you had eaten, saying, “This is the New Covenant in My Blood; as often as you do this, do it in remembrance of me.” Daddy God, we thank You for the anointing of Jesus’ blood. We thank You for the cross of Jesus. We ask for the anointing of Jesus’ blood to come upon and possess this wine, for You said, “...this is my blood of the New Testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.” Jesus, this wine is Your blood, containing the cleansing anointing and healing power of Your blood, Yahshua. By drinking this wine, we commune in oneness in You, Yahshua as You are one in Father Yahweh. Our sins are forgiven. We aren’t guilty or condemned. Lord Jesus, we are eternally one in You spiritually, mentally, emotionally, physically, financially and socially. Thank you Jesus!

Decerning the Blood of Jesus

The blood purchased us for the Father - Acts 20:28
The blood forgives us of our sins - Col 1:14T
The blood redeems us - Eph 1:7
The blood destroys the works of the devil - Heb 2:14
The blood justifies us - Rom 5:9
The blood reconciles us to God - Rom 5:10
The blood helps us to serve God - Heb 13:21
The blood established a New and better Covenant - Heb 12:24
The blood purifies us - Heb 9:22
The blood cleanses us - Rev 1:5
The blood heals us - Is 53:5
The blood sets us free from captivity - Zec 9:11
The blood save us from:
- wrath - Rom 5:9
- spiritual death - John 6:52-54
The blood causes:
- Jesus to live in us - John 6:56
- to overcome - Rev 12:11
The blood gives us:
- access to the Holy of Holies - Hebrews 10:19
- boldness - Heb 10:19
- prosperity - Zec 9:11-12
- life - Jn 6:53
The blood frees us from:
- grief and sorrow - Is 53:4-5
- fear - I John 4:18
- the curse - Gal 3:13
The blood makes us:
- holy - Heb 10:29
- righteous - Rom 3:24-26
- complete - Heb 13-21
The blood brings us:
- life - John 6:53
- protection - Ex 12:13
- peace - Col 10:16
- blessings - Cor 10:16
- near to the Father - Eph 2:13

Amen!

Enjoy!

 

[God_Owned]

Subject: If tomorrow starts without me

A few weeks ago a woman was killed in an auto accident. She was very well liked, so the office shut down for her funeral and it was on the news and so on. On the day the workers came back to work, they found this poem in their e-mail that the deceased woman had sent on Friday before she left for home.

If Tomorrow Starts Without Me

"If tomorrow starts without me,
and I'm not there to see,
if the sun should rise and find your eyes
all filled with tears for me;

I wish so much you wouldn't cry
the way you did today,
while thinking of the many things,
we didn't get to say.

I know how much you love me,
as much as I love you,
and each time that you think of me,
I know you'll miss me too.

But when tomorrow starts without me,
please try to understand,
that an angel came and called my name,
and took me by the hand,

And said my place was ready,
in heaven far above,
and that I'd have to leave behind
all those I dearly love.

But as I turned to walk away,
a tear fell from my eye,
for all my life, I'd always thought,
I didn't want to die.

I had so much to live for,
so much left yet to do,
it seemed almost impossible,
that I was leaving you.

I thought of all the yesterdays,
the good ones and the bad;
I thought of all that we shared,
and all the fun we had.

If I could relive yesterday,
just even for a while,
I'd say goodbye and kiss you
and maybe see you smile.

But then I fully realized,
that this could never be,
for emptiness and memories,
would take the place of me.

And when I thought of worldly things,
I might miss come tomorrow,
I thought of you, and when I did,
my heart was filled with sorrow.

But when I walked through heaven's gates,
I felt so much at home,
when God looked down and smiled at me,
from His great golden throne,

He said, "This is eternity,
and all I've promised you."
Today your life on earth is past,
but here life starts anew.

I promise no tomorrow,
but today will always last,
and since each day is the same way,
there's no longing for the past.

You have been so faithful,
so trusting and so true,
though there were times you did some things,
you knew you shouldn't do.

But you have been forgiven,
and now at last you're free.
So won't you come and take my hand,
and share my life with me?

So when tomorrow starts without me,
don't think we're far apart,
for every time you think of me,
I'm right here, in your heart "