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It IS hypocrisy when one is using elected office to prevent equal rights to citizens who are gay people, when one is a closeted homo one's self.But this not hypocrisy.
The gay men I know have not said they have done this. And since I am a woman, I don't go into men's restrooms.
From the things I hear my students say, I suspect many of them probably are having sex with lots of people. But I don't work in student life or residence life, and my focus is on my students' academic development, not their sex lives. We have other people on campus who are supposed to deal with personal lives of the students.
I like your line about "no holes barred." You of course meant "no holds barred," but the way you wrote it, it seems to apply to this kind of sexual situation, with the "glory holes."
What you describe is far from anything that can be called "the gay lifestyle."It's just not something that everyone will talk about. But there apparently is a large part of the male gay community that knows that they can get "no strings attached sex" in public restrooms be they on university campuses, airports, malls, rest stops, etc.
You can go into public restrooms all over and see the "advertising."
And from folks that I have recently spoken with, this is also something that "straight" guys will do. It's anonymous, they ain't got to play any games or buy anyone dinner, and they don't have to call anyone.
Just no holes barred, noncommittal, no strings attached sex. I guess this is why you can find this behavior on just about any college campus. At that age, they don't care who they are getting their jollies with. They ae just trying to get them.
And non-college age folks in these communities know this too.
It's an entirely different subculture. And based upon what I've been told, I got to figure that every gay guy at some point has probably delved in some form of quickie sex like this.
Unfortunately, this is the world we live in.
What you describe is far from anything that can be called "the gay lifestyle."
And speak only for yourself when you are talking about delving into "quickies!"
It IS hypocrisy when one is using elected office to prevent equal rights to citizens who are gay people, when one is a closeted homo one's self.
It's the HEIGHT of hypocrisy.
What are you suggesting he will say that he thinks is wrong? Committing adultery? Of course he will say that is wrong, since it is, and most people agree that it is. Having sex with men?I do agree since he did this in the closet. What if he was to come out and say he was gay, thinks it is wrong, stays in office, and fights his agenda as before?
I think that only Larry Craig can define himself, and he will have to come to grips, in some fashion, with his same-sex attractions and how those are part of who he is. If he doesn't, then he will continue to live a life lacking in integrity, a compartmentalized life in which one part of him denies the other. That way of living has failed him up to now.And the man probably doesn't consider himself to be gay since he has a wife and kids. But he certainly is at the very least a practicing bisexual.
What are you suggesting he will say that he thinks is wrong? Committing adultery? Of course he will say that is wrong, since it is, and most people agree that it is. Having sex with men?
I honestly don't know any gay people who say, "I am gay, and I believe that having sex with someone of the same sex is wrong." I know many gay people, though not the ones who have clandestine sex in restrooms. (Perhaps gay people who may think that same-sex sex is wrong are the same people who are having clandestine sex in restrooms!)
I could not picture Larry Craig saying, "I am gay, and I think that having sex with men is wrong." You just don't see people saying that.
Anyhow, it looks like no matter what he says, he has very little chance of keeping his seat.
I have prayed for your friend.No I am not talking about adultery. I am talking about him coming out saying homosexuality is wrong. I am simply asking a hypothetical question. If he came out and said he was gay and that it is wrong in his eyes and still works against homosexuals on the political front is that being a hypocrite? And I have a friend who is gay. He believes in the eyes of God it is wrong and has vowed to be celibate. So there are homosexuals out there who believe it is wrong as well.
I don't personally know any gay people who say that having an intimate relationship is wrong. But maybe there are some, and they don't hang out with people like me. I know quite a few people who say they used to think that having a same-sex relationship was wrong, and so they tried to live in a heterosexual marriage and it ended in disaster, with much heartache for their opposite-sex spouse. The eventually realized they could not pretend to be heterosexual because they are gay, and they abandoned the belief that an intimate same-sex relationship is wrong.No I am not talking about adultery. I am talking about him coming out saying homosexuality is wrong. I am simply asking a hypothetical question. If he came out and said he was gay and that it is wrong in his eyes and still works against homosexuals on the political front is that being a hypocrite? And I have a friend who is gay. He believes in the eyes of God it is wrong and has vowed to be celibate. So there are homosexuals out there who believe it is wrong as well.
I would be willing to wager that your friend will eventually decide that he is not going to stay celibate and alone, and he will abandon the belief that having an intimate same-sex relationship is wrong.I have prayed for your friend.
I would be willing to wager that your friend will eventually decide that he is not going to stay celibate and alone, and he will abandon the belief that having an intimate same-sex relationship is wrong.
Why would I speak for myself in terms of gay quickies?
Then he should get immediate psychotherapy.I do agree since he did this in the closet. What if he was to come out and say he was gay, thinks it is wrong, stays in office, and fights his agenda as before?
I would be willing to wager that your friend will eventually decide that he is not going to stay celibate and alone, and he will abandon the belief that having an intimate same-sex relationship is wrong.
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