communion question

[PreachersWife2004]

That's nice of you to take the individual cup when you are ill but do you always know right away when you are contagious?

I've gotten pretty good at knowing when I was sick.

As I said, I merely do it out of courtesy.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

But with some sicknesses you are already contagious before having any symptoms.

Yep. And generally I just hope that when I go up I'm not contagious. When I *know* I'm contagious, I'd use the individual cups.

You're really reaching to make your point. Your arm might be sore after that.

 

[tulipbee]

I've had Catholics tell me sharing the same cup does not spread germs. My church using plastic cups shows how intelligent they are.

 

[Athanasias]

I've had Catholics tell me sharing the same cup does not spread germs. My church using plastic cups shows how intelligent they are.

With us Catholics we hold to the doctrine of concomitance so if we feel sick we simply just take Christ under the form of bread. I rarely take Christ under the form of wine even though its offered at every mass at my parish.

 

[FreeinChrist]

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[seekingsolace]

Do some of you refuse to shake hands during the "sharing of the peace"?

Just as many germs there.

I use my trusty liquid hand sanitizer when everyones gone

 

[cerette]

I prefer the common cup because it feels more special than a small plastic one, but I don't think it matters to the Lord because the cup is not what makes Communion Communion. When there was an option, and I felt a bit unwell, I took the plastic one. Otherwise I've always used the common cup.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

With us Catholics we hold to the doctrine of concomitance so if we feel sick we simply just take Christ under the form of bread. I rarely take Christ under the form of wine even though its offered at every mass at my parish.

Lutherans do not (or should not) commune this way as it goes directly against what Jesus told us: "Eat, drink..."

 

[Athanasias]

Lutherans do not (or should not) commune this way as it goes directly against what Jesus told us: "Eat, drink..."

Oh Thats ok Lutherans do not have to do this. Most Catholics also take the chalice but I just prefer the host. Its the same Jesus. So do you believe that the Full Christ is present under both forms or do you believe he is split in half in each form?

 

[Athanasias]

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[Albion]

Oh Thats ok Lutherans do not have to do this. Most Catholics also take the chalice but I just prefer the host. Its the same Jesus. So do you believe that the Full Christ is present under both forms or do you believe he is split in half in each form?

I believe in doing what he called upon us to do. That means both bread and cup, each of which has it own particular symbolism that he explained at the Last Supper.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

I believe in doing what he called upon us to do. That means both bread and cup, each of which has it own particular symbolism that he explained at the Last Supper.

Lutherans do not (or should not) commune this way as it goes directly against what Jesus told us: "Eat, drink..."

Yup.

 

[Tangible]

Oh Thats ok Lutherans do not have to do this. Most Catholics also take the chalice but I just prefer the host. Its the same Jesus. So do you believe that the Full Christ is present under both forms or do you believe he is split in half in each form?

No, each element contains the full presence of Christ. But as Jesus commands us to partake of both kinds, we should do that normally and whenever possible.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

I believe it is the body and blood and Christ while being bread and wine. Christ is not split in half. I also believe there's a reason why Jesus said eat AND drink.

 

[Athanasias]

I believe it is the body and blood and Christ while being bread and wine. Christ is not split in half. I also believe there's a reason why Jesus said eat AND drink.

I agree with most of what you said. And certainly receiving Christ under both forms(as most Catholics do) does allow one to have a more fuller significance. But theologically speaking if the whole Christ is present under both forms(which include his body and blood, soul and Divinity as St. Paul teaches in 1 Corinthians and John does) would that not be eating and drinking anytime you receive one form or the other? Whatever form you receive him in you still ingest the whole Christ(body and blood, soul and Divinity) in an intimate way that parallels marital intercourse.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

I agree with most of what you said. And certainly receiving Christ under both forms(as most Catholics do) does allow one to have a more fuller significance. But theologically speaking if the whole Christ is present under both forms(which include his body and blood, soul and Divinity as St. Paul teaches in 1 Corinthians and John does) would that not be eating and drinking anytime you receive one form or the other? Whatever form you receive him in you still ingest the whole Christ(body and blood, soul and Divinity) in an intimate way that parallels marital intercourse.

What the what? Since when was communion supposed to parallel marital intercourse??? You might just be taking the church being the bride a bit too literally at this point in time.

Aside from that wacky assertion, why would Jesus tell us to eat and drink then? Why not just hand the guys the bread and be done with it? Or just tell them to drink their wine? There is significance to Jesus saying This is my Body, This is my Blood. So, Lutherans will do it the right way, rather than the half way.

 

[Athanasias]

What the what? Since when was communion supposed to parallel marital intercourse??? You might just be taking the church being the bride a bit too literally at this point in time.

Aside from that wacky assertion, why would Jesus tell us to eat and drink then? Why not just hand the guys the bread and be done with it? Or just tell them to drink their wine? There is significance to Jesus saying This is my Body, This is my Blood. So, Lutherans will do it the right way, rather than the half way.

My sister in Christ Jesus I am not saying you do it wrong. I think you do it right. I think Catholics do it right too. Most Parishes I have been too offers both forms. I am just saying I also do not see an issue with receiving under just one form since the whole Christ is present and since receiving Christ under either form would still be consuming or eating and drinking his body and blood soul and divinity.

Sure to us Catholics I find the Eucharistic theology rather beautiful and deep on many levels .We do believe that Christ is the bridegroom and the Church is the bride. Just as Jesus gave himself fully on the cross for his bride so to he gives himself fully to us in the Eucharist which is a participation of that sacrifice. Likewise we see Marriage as a sacrament that reflects this same sacrifice in Eph 5. Jesus says "This is my body given for you". To us Catholics when we have marital intercourse its a reflection of that each spouse giving their body and everything they have for each other out of self sacrificial love. Communion is also a preview of heaven as in heaven we will share the closest most intimate union with God in the beatific vision and marital intercourse also reflects that union with the blessed Trinity when the 2 become one and the one 9 months late if God wills it becomes 3.

So Eucharistic Communion to us is the closest thing you will get to heaven on earth this side of the vale. Communion is the sacramental equivalent to marital intercourse in our view because its the most intimate moment a Christian can have with God on this earth being physically and spiritual intimate with Jesus himself who gives himself to be with us inside of us in a real way both physically and spiritually out of love. At least thats our view and I find it deep and beautiful.

 

[Tangible]

No wonder an ex-Catholic atheist once commented to me about "fellating the sky god." I didn't understand at the time.

 

[Athanasias]

No wonder an ex-Catholic atheist once commented to me about "fellating the sky god." I didn't understand at the time.

HUH?

 

[Sword of the Lord]

I do not have marital intercourse when I take the body and blood. What in the...