Communion in the hand

QuantaCura · Dec 23, 2010

Shouldn't the ego become attached to something outside of itself--namely God? That's what the word religion is derived from--man being reconnected to God. That's what religious worship and traditions are for--the connection to God and to religion are closely intertwined for this purpose. I think that is why so many radical changes (granted, to changeable things) in such a short time were also accompanied by so many leaving the clerical state, seminaries, and parish churches (with hindsight it is of coruse easier to see this effect). It's probably why this phenomenon is common among those who prefer the EF and all that goes with it.

Obviously, if someone is only partaking of them for show, then that is no good, but it's difficult to judge whether that is the case.

ChristoEtEcclesiae · Dec 23, 2010

QuantaCura said:
Plus, catching any particles, etc. that might fall is what the communion plate is for (see Redemptionis Sacramentum 93, citing GIRM 118).

The Communion Paten does not catch any particles which may remain on a Communicant's hand.

JacktheCatholic · Dec 23, 2010

rawson said:
Why ?

It reflects the most reverance for the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ IMO.

Each and every particle of the Eucharistic Host is Jesus and when we use our hand we probably have particles of Jesus still on our palms. What do people do after they hold the Body of Christ? Do they wipe their hands on their clothes or something else?

What does a Eucharistic Minister do after they have handed out the Body of Christ? Wash their hands in Holy Water (our ministers do)?

All I know is that our Church pays the greatest respect to our Lord Jesus Chris in the Eucharist. You all need to make your own decisions.

JacktheCatholic · Dec 23, 2010

JimR-OCDS said:
Isn't it about time to have another thread opposing holding hands during the Lord's Prayer at Mass?

We seem to be behind CAF where threads on these two topics open up every other day.

Jim

It is against the rubrics from what I have read.

ChristoEtEcclesiae · Dec 23, 2010

JacktheCatholic said:
It reflects the most reverance for the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ IMO.

Each and every particle of the Eucharistic Host is Jesus and when we use our hand we probably have particles of Jesus still on our palms. What do people do after they hold the Body of Christ? Do they wipe their hands on their clothes or something else?

What does a Eucharistic Minister do after they have handed out the Body of Christ? Wash their hands in Holy Water (our ministers do)?

All I know is that our Church pays the greatest respect to our Lord Jesus Chris in the Eucharist. You all need to make your own decisions.

Before I knew better I was never instructed to do anything about particles. I resigned from being an EMHC when I realized what a mess the whole business is.

JacktheCatholic · Dec 23, 2010

ChristoEtEcclesiae said:
Before I knew better I was never instructed to do anything about particles. I resigned from being an EMHC when I realized what a mess the whole business is.

My 11 year old son is an alter server and I have learned from him.

ChristoEtEcclesiae · Dec 23, 2010

JacktheCatholic said:
My 11 year old son is an alter server and I have learned from him.

I was an altar boy for 13 years and was still never instructed on such things. Such is the state of my parish.

Consiglieri · Dec 23, 2010

JacktheCatholic said:
It is against the rubrics from what I have read.

Really? Where did you read that? The GIRM says nothing about it, so many people claim if it's not there, it's wrong.

JacktheCatholic · Dec 23, 2010

Consiglieri said:
Really? Where did you read that? The GIRM says nothing about it, so many people claim if it's not there, it's wrong.

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paul becke · Dec 23, 2010

I have to disagree with you, ChristoetEcclesiae. Christ only ever used the images of the Shepherd and his flock as a metaphor.

The very last thing Christ came down to earth for as a weak human being was to demean us, as feeding us in the way that a literal shepherd might feed a literal sheep or a mother her baby, does.

On the contrary, he came down, not to lord it over us, but as a servant, to teach us what an extraordinary dignity we are endowed with as human beings made in the image of God, eventually to become part of the, at least, extended family of the Most Holy Trinity, God, himself, via our incorporatin into the Mystical Body of Christ, the True Vine.

In fact, excessive clericalism, and insufficient emphasis on the dignity of all his children of light, as priests after the order Melchisedek and forever, has been the bane of the institutional Church.

I love the cult of the saints, the canonised saints, and pray to them every day, but here again, I believe it should have been better balanced with the teaching I referred to above.

Unsurprisingly, as you indicate, it is also imperative for us to maintain an absolute reverence for our all-loving, all-knowing and all-powerful Creator. However, I think that receiving the sacred Host in the hand needs not by any manner or means be done with anything but the greatest reverence; while receiving it in the mouth is injurious as a demeaning and excessively literal interpretation of the Good Shepherd metaphor.

Michie · Dec 23, 2010

JacktheCatholic said:
It reflects the most reverance for the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ IMO.

Each and every particle of the Eucharistic Host is Jesus and when we use our hand we probably have particles of Jesus still on our palms. What do people do after they hold the Body of Christ? Do they wipe their hands on their clothes or something else?

What does a Eucharistic Minister do after they have handed out the Body of Christ? Wash their hands in Holy Water (our ministers do)?

All I know is that our Church pays the greatest respect to our Lord Jesus Chris in the Eucharist. You all need to make your own decisions.

A sacarium is used Jack. It is a special sink that bypasses the sewer & goes directly into the ground. It's located in the sacristy.

ChristoEtEcclesiae · Dec 23, 2010

Michie said:
A sacarium is used Jack. It is a special sink that bypasses the sewer & goes directly into the ground. It's located in the sacristy.

Not all churches have this, including my parish church.

Dylan Michael · Dec 23, 2010

ChristoEtEcclesiae said:
Not all churches have this, including my parish church.

I thought that was required.

Consiglieri · Dec 23, 2010

ChristoEtEcclesiae said:
Not all churches have this, including my parish church.

Every Catholic church has one of these in the sacristy.

Polycarp1 · Dec 23, 2010

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JacktheCatholic · Dec 23, 2010

Michie said:
A sacarium is used Jack. It is a special sink that bypasses the sewer & goes directly into the ground. It's located in the sacristy.

Thank you Michie.

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AMDG · Dec 23, 2010

Consiglieri said:
Every Catholic church has one of these in the sacristy.

My civilian parish as well as all the parishes around me plus my military parish (an entirely different diocese than my civilian parish) doesn't.

If my parish had one at one time, obviously it was removed during the remodeling.

Consiglieri · Dec 23, 2010

AMDG said:
My civilian parish as well as all the parishes around me plus my military parish (an entirely different diocese than my civilian parish) doesn't.

If my parish had one at one time, obviously it was removed during the remodeling.

I sincerely doubt that. Every church, and every remodel of a church is approved by the diocese. You can build an altar or ambo an inch out of line with diocese approved plans.

AMDG · Dec 23, 2010

Consiglieri said:
I sincerely doubt that. Every church, and every remodel of a church is approved by the diocese.

I was an extraordinary minister in both my military chapel and also in my civilian parish (two separate diocese). I assure you that neither building has a sacarium. When I asked, I was told that it isn't required anymore.

Consiglieri · Dec 23, 2010

Well you were told wrong.

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