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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_grace

Aspects of common grace
In the words of Reformed scholar Louis Berkhof, “[Common grace] curbs the destructive power of sin, maintains in a measure the moral order of the universe, thus making an orderly life possible, distributes in varying degrees gifts and talents among men, promotes the development of science and art, and showers untold blessings upon the children of men,” (Berkhof, p. 434, summarizing Calvin’s position on common grace). The various aspects of God's common grace to all mankind may be generally gathered under four heads:

Providential care in creation - God’s sustaining care for his creation, called divine providence, is grace common to all. The Bible says, for instance, that God through the Son "upholds the universe by the word of his power" (Heb. 1:2-3; John 1:1-4). God's gracious provision for his creatures is seen in the giving of the seasons, of seedtime and harvest. It is of this providential common grace that Jesus reminds his hearers when he said God "makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust" (Matt. 5:45). We also see evidence of God’s common grace in the establishment of various structures within human society. At a foundational level, God has ordained the family unit. Even pagan parents typically know that they should nurture their children (Matt. 7:9-10) and raise them to become responsible adults.

Providential restraint of sin - In the Bible, Paul teaches that civil authorities have been "instituted by God" (Rom. 13:1) to maintain order and punish wrong-doing. Although fallible instruments of his common grace, civil governments are called "ministers of God" (Rom. 13:6) that should not be feared by those who do good. God also sovereignly works through circumstances to limit a persons sinful behavior (Gen. 20:6, 1 Sam. 25:26).

In man's conscience - The apostle Paul says that when unbelieving Gentiles "who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, . . . They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them" (Rom. 2:14-15, ESV). By God's common grace fallen mankind retains a conscience indicating the differences between right and wrong. This may be based on the fact that human beings, though fallen in sin, retain a semblance of the "image of God" with which they were originally created (Gen. 9:6: 1 Cor. 11:7).

Providential blessings to mankind - Human advancements that come through the unredeemed are seen as outcomes of God's common grace. For example, medical and other technological advancements that improve the lives of both the redeemed and unredeemed are seen as initiated by common grace.
In summary, common grace is seen in God's continuing care for his creation, his restraining human society from becoming altogether intolerable and ungovernable, his making it possible for mankind to live together in a generally orderly and cooperative manner, and maintaining man's conscious sense of basic right and wrong behavior.

Contrasted with special grace

Special grace, in Reformed theology, is the grace by which God redeems, sanctifies, and glorifies his people. Unlike common grace, which is universally given, special grace is bestowed only on those whom God elects to eternal life through faith in Jesus Christ. This special grace is frequently linked with the five points of Calvinism as irresistible grace or efficacious grace.


also ;

http://www.mbrem.com/calvinism/commongrace.htm


http://www.ldolphin.org/common.html


http://www.crcna.org/pages/positions_common_grace.cfm
 
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...Because grace doesn't have to mean love. . .

But it does imply an affection for the reprobate which God does not have.

Psa 92:7 "When the wicked spring as the grass, and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish; it is that they shall be destroyed for ever:"

Psa 73:17-20 "Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end. Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction. How are they brought into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors. As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image."

Psa 5:5 "The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity."

Pro 16:4 "The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil."
 
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The rain falls on the just and the unjust. So does knowledge about the rain and other stuff. This is common grace.


YES!!! :amen:

It certainly isn't deserved by anyone , God is good ....... how very good God is sister ! :hug:
 
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But it does imply an affection for the reprobate which God does not have.

Psa 92:7 "When the wicked spring as the grass, and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish; it is that they shall be destroyed for ever:"

Psa 73:17-20 "Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end. Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction. How are they brought into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors. As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image."

Psa 5:5 "The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity."

Pro 16:4 "The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil."

But He hasn't damned them all yet. . .and He gives them blessings. Just because He isn't going to save them doesn't mean that He doesn't show grace to them. . .yes that grace will build up more punishment for them in the end, but that grace is shone nevertheless.
 
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But if God has designed them to damn the reprobate in what way are they a blessing to them?

God didn't design good things to damn the reprobate , rebrobates are damned because of their sin.
# God no more designs good to damn men than He designed the Tree of the Knowledge of God and Evil to save Christians........ it is an incidental.
It is adscititious , supervenient .
God is love ... and patience , mercy , longsuffering , kindness are attributes of His love .
David knew this , and when he could easily have taken the life of King Saul , instead he grants Saul time to repent , and David's love shamed the King ..... in this way in particular David is said to be "a man after mine own heart" said the Lord.

Slow to anger........ :amen:
 
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God didn't design good things to damn the reprobate , rebrobates are damned because of their sin.

A. That is a position indeed but not the correct one, it is not the testimony of Scripture in that whilst it is because they sin they are punished it its God who has chosen not to regenerate them and so leave them in their sin to be punished. The final cause of their damnation is God's sovereign choice.

B. Furthermore;
1 "The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil." - Proverbs 16:4
2. 1Pe 2:8 "And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed." Unbelif is a sin and yet here God has ordained their unbelief!
3. The roprobate are "vessels of wrath fitted to destruction" Romans 9:22.
4. "For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ." Jude 1:4

C. Hoeksema preaches "Another and rather common interpretation is that the lump of clay represents fallen humanity. Mankind is fallen in Adam and is become a corrupt mass without any claim to God's mercy. God, therefore, without doing an injustice to any, can form into vessels of mercy those whom He wills to save according to His sovereign good pleasure, while He has the sovereign right to leave others in their corrupt and damnable state. But also this interpretation does not do justice to the figure that is found in the text. The figure of the potter and the clay does not merely illustrate the sovereignty of God with regard to the vessels of mercy to make them into vessels of honor, but also His prerogative to make vessels unto dishonor. The potter does not make vessels unto honor and permit vessels unto dishonor to develop by themselves, but he forms both. God is equally sovereign both with regard to the salvation of the elect and the damnation of the reprobate. This is also the meaning of the immediate context: He is merciful to whom He will be merciful and whom He will, He hardeneth!

If we would consider the matter from a historical viewpoint, we are not even compelled to explain that the lump of clay represent mankind as it was originally created. For, we may go a step farther back. Fact is, that the divine Potter formed man literally out of the ground. He took the dust of the ground or reddish clay and formed Adam out of it. Literally He began with a lump of clay. He made a man out of that lump of clay, and in that one man He formed the entire human race. This formation of Adam out of the dust of the ground was the very first step in the making of vessels unto honor and vessels unto dishonor. For, it was God's sovereign purpose, even in the formation of Adam, to make these two kinds of vessels, in the way of sin and grace, and along the line of election and reprobation. And this purpose He carries out. for, it is according to His eternal good pleasure and by His omnipresent providence, even though it be through the willful and wanton disobedience of man in conjunction with the temptation of the devil, that sin is introduced and in the first Adam the whole human race becomes guilty and corrupt, subject to the wrath of God and dead in sin and misery. No, God is not the author of sin. Far be it from us even to think such a thing of Him Who is absolutely holy and righteous, Who is a light and there is no darkness in Him. But with equal abhorrence we reject as unscriptural the view that sin was a mere accident, that God did not hold the reigns as the Governor of the universe, when man fell and all the world was submerged in the darkness of sin and death. From God's viewpoint the entrance of sin was merely the second step toward the formation of the vessels unto honor and unto dishonor. In the third place, from that fallen race, corrupt and dead in sin, He takes His own in Christ Jesus, those that are chosen in Him before the foundation of the world, redeems them through His blood, justifies them through His resurrection, and by the power of His irresistible grace makes them the objects and products of His mercy, vessels unto honor in His eternal kingdom of glory; while He hardens the rest and through every means forms them into vessels unto dishonor. For, He is merciful unto whom He will to be merciful and whom He wills He hardens. Thus the figure in the words of my text is strictly maintained. Hath not the potter power over the clay, to make of the same lump vessels unto honor and vessels unto dishonor?" See
 
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^ reprobation isn't an issue here , in fact it is irrelevant to common grace which does NOT save ! :)


“Then the Lord said to me, “Go again, love a woman who is loved by a lover and is committing adultery, just like the love of the Lord for the children of Israel, who look to other gods and love the raisin cakes of the pagans.” (Hosea 3:1) who is the focus of this love but the "children of Israel" , and clearly not all are elected to salvation , or do you think it was only the elect who commited this wicked sin ?


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reprobation isn't an issue here

On the contrary it is the issue.



“Then the Lord said to me, “Go again, love a woman who is loved by a lover and is committing adultery, just like the love of the Lord for the children of Israel, who look to other gods and love the raisin cakes of the pagans.” (Hosea 3:1) who is the focus of this love but the "children of Israel" , and clearly not all are elected to salvation , or do you think it was only the elect who commited this wicked sin ?

Israel is a picture of the Church and so this means that God loves his people whom he hath chosen even when they sin. Hence God said unto Jeremiah

Jer 31:3,4 "The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee. Again I will build thee, and thou shalt be built, O virgin of Israel: thou shalt again be adorned with thy tabrets, and shalt go forth in the dances of them that make merry."

And so the Geneva notes read "In this the Prophet represents the person of God, who loved his Church before he called her, and did not withdraw his love when she gave herself to idols."
 
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On the contrary it is the issue.

and there was me thinking you could see "common grace" as a debateable doctrine without it being a cover for reprobation ....... next time call your thread ... Reprobation.
 
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Israel is a picture of the Church and so this means that God loves his people whom he hath chosen even when they sin. Hence God said unto Jeremiah

Jer 31:3,4 "The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee. Again I will build thee, and thou shalt be built, O virgin of Israel: thou shalt again be adorned with thy tabrets, and shalt go forth in the dances of them that make merry."

And so the Geneva notes read "In this the Prophet represents the person of God, who loved his Church before he called her, and did not withdraw his love when she gave herself to idols."


Dear me , all this was just an illustration of God's REAL LOVE for the Church , not for NATIONAL Israel who just so happen to be a mixed bunch of saved and none-saved ....... how watered down this all becomes .... fake love cannot illustrate real love no matter what spin you stick on it .

the church does not forsake Christ , but Israel does ;

“And I said, after she had done all these things, ‘Return to Me.’ But she did not return. (Jeremiah 3:7)
 
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and there was me thinking you could see "common grace" as a debateable doctrine without it being a cover for reprobation ....... next time call your thread ... Reprobation.

So inaccepting reprobation you accept that God hates the reprobate?
 
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Dear me , all this was just an illustration of God's REAL LOVE for the Church , not for NATIONAL Israel who just so happen to be a mixed bunch of saved and none-saved ....... how watered down this all becomes .... fake love cannot illustrate real love no matter what spin you stick on it .

the church does not forsake Christ , but Israel does ;

“And I said, after she had done all these things, ‘Return to Me.’ But she did not return. (Jeremiah 3:7)

You make much of God loving Israel (elect or reprobate) but you ignore the fact that your understanding is that Israel (elect and reprobate) are God's covenant people and so all you infact affirm is that God loves his covenant people.
 
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So inaccepting reprobation you accept that God hates the reprobate?

sure , we are all called children of wrath (even the elect) Love and hate are not irreconcilable , a person who discovers a cheating spouse soon learns that Love and hate can co-exist!
 
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You make much of God loving Israel (elect or reprobate) but you ignore the fact that your understanding is that Israel (elect and reprobate) are God's covenant people and so all you infact affirm is that God loves his covenant people.

so Israel are elect and reprobate !

Ninevah wasn't a "covenant people" ............ you really need to bevcome Jonah for a couple of years , come back and we shall chatt some more :)

"The mercy of God is offered equally to those who believe and to those who believe not, so that those who are not Divinely taught within are rendered inexcusable" (John Calvin—1552—"The Eternal Predestination of God" p. 95).
 
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You make much of God loving Israel (elect or reprobate) but you ignore the fact that your understanding is that Israel (elect and reprobate) are God's covenant people and so all you infact affirm is that God loves his covenant people.


Rom 11:28As concerning the gospel, [they are] enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, [they are] beloved for the fathers' sakes.
 
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