Committing Adultery

[4jacks]

One Day in the Flat Farmlands. A flood came and everyone was unprepaired for it. A devote young christian man got cuaght in this flood and ended up on his roof top as the waters were rising.

The young man prayed to God. "God, Please deliver me from this flood. I believe in your son, I believe in your Power, I have seen your Grace, power and majesty. I pray that you will spare my life and delivery me from these raging waters. In Christ Jesus I pray, AMEN!"

Just after his prayer a boat came by and the people from the boat yelled to him, Come in the boat, we'll save you. to which the man replied. "My God will save me and delivery me from these waters"

The waters continued to rise and the men in the boat got frustrated and went to save others.

Soon after a Helicopter came by and lowered a ladder and yelled to the man. "Climb up the ladder we will Save you!"

To which the man replied. "I am relying on my God to save me and Delivery me from this flood"

The waters continued to rise as the Men in the helicopter got frustrated and went to save other people.

The man on the roof top drowned, and when reaching heaven, he went to god and said to God. "God why did you not save me when I called out to you, I had faith in you."

To which God Replied. "I sent a Boat and a Helicopter, Stupid!"

 

[lourie]

Get Rid Of Your Computer!!!

Duh

 

[WarriorforChrist]

I can't. I'd have to give up my job then. I don't have the internet at home, and won't till I can prove to myself and my wife.

 

[MERCY@GRACE]

I know we just had a post here about our posts being seasoned w/ salt, but I'm gonna add a little hot sauce to mine.


It smacks in the face of ppl who are trying to help you out, only for you to be deceptive and play games...ie, different usernames, milking sympathy etc!
There's a time when ya gotta cut the cord and stop handholding. I know when to be sympathetic, when to lend an ear, when to remain silent, and when to speak. Right now I am speaking to you boldly! SATAN IS TRYING TO TAKE YOU OUT!! If you don't yield to the holy spirit sin WILL overtake you! This is not a fun and games board to play on ppl's emotions, or to coddle those in sin.

It seems you have many issues you have made apparent..... as well as ones you haven't. You first need to get real and reveal the truth about was is REALLY going on in that soul of yours. You are obviously crying out by being misleading, but what is the ROOT?? Get to the root-if you can't kill the root-it will continue to bud. I am being brutally honest bc I am concerned for your soul. I am concerned that you are in a sad state of affairs- that you put yourself in! People can change but YOU have to WANT to change. People are not being real when they say they CAN'T stop sinning.....the fact is.....they don't want to stop sinning bad enough!

If you devote 50% of your time, watching porn, lying, thinking of ways to lie,listening and watching worldy programs.....guess what.....your gonna be 50% world! However if you devote 50% of your time in the word, in prayer,in fellowship, you will be 50% WORD, GOD'S WORD! If satan can take the WORD out of you, he can take you out. Thats why Proverbs 4:20 says we are to GUARD our hearts. We are not as easily accesible to satan when the word is stored in our hearts!
I pray that you get the gist of what I am saying bc I don't want to see you live a life of willful sin, there is no blessing in that. I am being real w/ you bc I DO care about you...even if I don't really know WHO you are or if you are even who you say you are...I just know you need help ASAP! He who has no sin cast the first stone. I am NOT without sin, and sometimes it takes someone who really cares about me to be real and up front w/ me, not to sugarcoat things so they won't loose my friendship. It may hurt at first, but if their words cause me to come out of my sin, their purpose is fulfilled!

 

[WarriorforChrist]

What I need is that. I need people to give me the ultimatum. I want people to say, "if you don't stop this foolishness, you deserve to be in hell."

 

[lourie]

I am thinking it is kinda like and alcoholic working at a liquor store???

this is an addiction and you should seek help as an alcoholic would

 

[Yitzchak]

I think the problem here though isn't the pornography at all, its that he has problem after problem after problem after problem and refuses to get any help for it.

And "different sex drives" don't make it *right* for *anyone* to look at porn. Thats why I'm flabergasted that anyone would even make that argument that women can't understand because the sex drives of a male and female are different.. who cares if they are different? That justifies nothing! The problem still exists and calls for a solution.

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While I agree with your point that the problem calls for a solution , I tend to think that the point about some people not understanding is valid as well.

At the risk of stirring up emotions, I will point out that many who smoke, have a hard time quiting. Many who overeat to the point of obesity have a difficult time disciplining themselves to eat less. Many who overspend , have a difficult time controling themselves. Alcoholics have a difficlut time stopping drinking. Even when they feel that it is wrong.

Where people oftentimes fail to understand is in that they dismiss the addictive nature of these addictions. Imagine saying I will never ever even once , the rest of my life eat any junk food. I will never ever overspend my money.These type of pronouncements seldom work.

Which brings me to the opening post. Counseling is a good option. Just plain will power will likely not work. This problem does call for a solution. But it may require a process.

 

[Yitzchak]

This makes me think of the traditional seven deadly sins list. I think that this one falls under the lust catagory. None of us has a "real " need to lust. But it can be extremely hard to overcome. I will pray for your situation.

 

[MERCY@GRACE]

This makes me think of the traditional seven deadly sins list. I think that this one falls under the lust catagory. None of us has a "real " need to lust. But it can be extremely hard to overcome. I will pray for your situation.

I am sympathetic to those addictive to sins, ie drug abuse, smoking, over eating etc. This is why Paul says that I want to do, I do not. There *is* a difference when someone hates their sin, and looks for ways to overcome, vs those that just throw up their hands and says "oh well" this is just me, can't do a thing about it, I'll always be defeated! This reminds me of the proverb, a dog that returns to their own vomit.

If someone appeared on a smokers doorstep and offered them a million $ to quit smoking for 1week, I believe that million dollars is motive enough to make them stop for one week. I've seen die hard women smokers, quit for 9months bc they are told they are pg. The love for their child is their motive for quiting. The love of/for God should be our motive to overcome sin.

Oh, and no where did I insinuate in my post that anyone deserves to go to hell!

I Am praying for this poster as well

ETA-Isac I wasn't refuting your post, I agree w/ you on pretty much everything you post lol. This case just seems a bit different is all

 

[lisarn]

God will forgive you. It's better that you are acknowledging things now. Many times we fall deeper and deeper into sin. Satan wants to separate you from God and he wants you to fail. He wants your marriage to fail. Many times pornography can lead to a real physical affair. God wants to get your attention before that happens. Turn to him in prayer, focus your heart on him and open up to your wife. It would be good for both of you to see a Christian counselor. God will see you through this. With his awesome power flowing through, you can overcome the addiction and the temptation. He will give you strength.

 

[4jacks]

Well everyone already thinks I'm a porn star or some junk, and I've already stuck my foot in my mouth once...

So I might as Well Cram the other foot in there!!! =)

I just wanted to say that you can not really understand this mans vice until you've been in it. I've never been a crack head, and not to say that I do not have empathy for them. But I can not have sympathy for them. That is really a key difference, empathy versus sympathy.

You may disagree with me. You may say. "I can truly understand something that I have not experienced."

But then we just disagree.

I think you can not treat any two addictions the same. With a smoking addiction you have a chemical in your body that you can rid yourself of to "ease" the urge. With a smoking addiction, you can slap a patch on your arm to ease the addiction. With a smoking addiction you have all those TV commercials ... "Truth.com quit smoking" the world is supporting you with your decision to quit.
But with a sex addiction, the world is against you. Every TV commercial is throwing it in your face. If you turn on the radio, what do you hear. "Dont cha wish your girlfriend was a freak like me" And there are no pills, patches, or drugs you can take to help. You can not go through any decompression program to rid your bodies of chemicals.

All I'm saying is that it is very different. I know it's very similiars in many ways also, no need to point them out.

Anyway.. Now that I successfully crammed that other foot in there, this will make a nice shoot for my next scene.... "P-Trick Does Dallas"


j/k calm down.

 

[MERCY@GRACE]

Well everyone already thinks I'm a porn star or some junk, and I've already stuck my foot in my mouth once...

So I might as Well Cram the other foot in there!!! =)

I just wanted to say that you can not really understand this mans vice until you've been in it. I've never been a crack head, and not to say that I do not have empathy for them. But I can not have sympathy for them. That is really a key difference, empathy versus sympathy.

You may disagree with me. You may say. "I can truly understand something that I have not experienced."

But then we just disagree.

I think you can not treat any two addictions the same. With a smoking addiction you have a chemical in your body that you can rid yourself of to "ease" the urge. With a smoking addiction, you can slap a patch on your arm to ease the addiction. With a smoking addiction you have all those TV commercials ... "Truth.com quit smoking" the world is supporting you with your decision to quit.
But with a sex addiction, the world is against you. Every TV commercial is throwing it in your face. If you turn on the radio, what do you hear. "Dont cha wish your girlfriend was a freak like me" And there are no pills, patches, or drugs you can take to help. You can not go through any decompression program to rid your bodies of chemicals.

All I'm saying is that it is very different. I know it's very similiars in many ways also, no need to point them out.

Anyway.. Now that I successfully crammed that other foot in there, this will make a nice shoot for my next scene.... "P-Trick Does Dallas"


j/k calm down.

Patrick, you just put your foot, your fist, your shoulder, AND your elbow in your mouth! Hehehee teasing. I guess I see your point. So if your wife is pmsing and she slaps you upside the head for not picking up your socks will you just hold and rock her and say,awwww, aunt flo must be here, it's o.k you go ahead and rant like a wild woman, I'm here for you-as you ever so lovingly kiss her forehead

O.k now I'm being giddy now

 

[Vilnius]

One counseling option is a 3 day workshop offered around the country from New Life Ministries at newlife .com or 1 800 new life. Dude, you obviously need help, and this is a great start. Good luck!

 

[Yitzchak]

I am sympathetic to those addictive to sins, ie drug abuse, smoking, over eating etc. This is why Paul says that I want to do, I do not. There *is* a difference when someone hates their sin, and looks for ways to overcome, vs those that just throw up their hands and says "oh well" this is just me, can't do a thing about it, I'll always be defeated! This reminds me of the proverb, a dog that returns to their own vomit.

If someone appeared on a smokers doorstep and offered them a million $ to quit smoking for 1week, I believe that million dollars is motive enough to make them stop for one week. I've seen die hard women smokers, quit for 9months bc they are told they are pg. The love for their child is their motive for quiting. The love of/for God should be our motive to overcome sin.

Here is the key to victory. A deeper relationship with the Lord. We are speaking about sanctification issues in this thread and greater holiness in our walk with the Lord grows out of relationship with Him. This is what will give stability and consistency.

God has created us so that we have a will which is meant to exercise authority over our own actions. But the rest of the story with that is we also need the power of the Holy Spirit to break the power of sin. Even worldly people can overcome many things by the power of their will. But when our will becomes submitted to the Holy Spirit , that is when the really powerful stuff begins.

To the opening poster ....Don't forget to include God in the process as the key player. It is good to take responsiiblity for your actions but don't forget that God provides grace for a new start and the power to make that new start free from former sins.

 

[Yitzchak]

Well everyone already thinks I'm a porn star or some junk, and I've already stuck my foot in my mouth once...

So I might as Well Cram the other foot in there!!! =)

I just wanted to say that you can not really understand this mans vice until you've been in it. I've never been a crack head, and not to say that I do not have empathy for them. But I can not have sympathy for them. That is really a key difference, empathy versus sympathy.

You may disagree with me. You may say. "I can truly understand something that I have not experienced."

But then we just disagree.

I think you can not treat any two addictions the same. With a smoking addiction you have a chemical in your body that you can rid yourself of to "ease" the urge. With a smoking addiction, you can slap a patch on your arm to ease the addiction. With a smoking addiction you have all those TV commercials ... "Truth.com quit smoking" the world is supporting you with your decision to quit.
But with a sex addiction, the world is against you. Every TV commercial is throwing it in your face. If you turn on the radio, what do you hear. "Dont cha wish your girlfriend was a freak like me" And there are no pills, patches, or drugs you can take to help. You can not go through any decompression program to rid your bodies of chemicals.

All I'm saying is that it is very different. I know it's very similiars in many ways also, no need to point them out.

Anyway.. Now that I successfully crammed that other foot in there, this will make a nice shoot for my next scene.... "P-Trick Does Dallas"


j/k calm down.

You make some good points. Really, you do. The battle for purity is an intense battle that sometimes seems hopeless to those in the middle of it.

I just want to say though that even the sins that seem impossible to overcome : can be overcome. We need to hold onto our faith and trust God to complete our sanctification. As the book of Galatians says, we live the Christian life the same way that we receive salvation. Through faith.

 

[searle29678]

When it comes to things like this (porn, lust, adultery, addiction, well all sin really) it all boils down to selfishness. Sure, you know it's a good idea to stop. You know that by doing 'X' you cause 'X' reaction. You care enough to know that you don't like the reaction but you sure like doing 'X.' In that moment in time when temptation strikes you throw all caution to the wind you forget about all of your prayers for strength and forgiveness and for that moment in time you enjoy that sin. It could be cheating on your wife, masturbation while looking at a magazine, snorting a line of cocaine, or taking a drink of alcohol--then when it's over and you are left with the 'after high' you realize what you have done and how horrid you feel. What do you do? You turn to God and ask forgiveness and strength because you don't know what is wrong with you. I spent a lot of years in a never ending circle: sin, pray, sin, pray, pray, pray, ask for help, ask forgiveness, go six months without that sin, sin, sin, pray. Every time it happened I would ask what was wrong with me. Finally it came to a point when God put it on my heart 'You know, you do wrong and then you repent. You are so sorry and so full of remorse and I forgive you. You pray for strength and I give it to you. But you put yourself right back in the same place all over again and commit the same sin all over again. In that moment of temptation I am nowhere in your heart. After it's done you come to me, why not call for me before you delve back in?'

At that point I realized that I hadn't really wanted to change. I knew what I was doing was wrong, sometimes I wanted to change, but when it came down to it I was to caught up in what was going on to really make it happen. After the temptation was gone God was my God again, but when it came back around sin was my God. You have to truly want to change that cycle and get out of it. God will help you, but when are you going to call on him? After the fact, or before the temptation hits you?

 

[MERCY@GRACE]

When it comes to things like this (porn, lust, adultery, addiction, well all sin really) it all boils down to selfishness. Sure, you know it's a good idea to stop. You know that by doing 'X' you cause 'X' reaction. You care enough to know that you don't like the reaction but you sure like doing 'X.' In that moment in time when temptation strikes you throw all caution to the wind you forget about all of your prayers for strength and forgiveness and for that moment in time you enjoy that sin. It could be cheating on your wife, masturbation while looking at a magazine, snorting a line of cocaine, or taking a drink of alcohol--then when it's over and you are left with the 'after high' you realize what you have done and how horrid you feel. What do you do? You turn to God and ask forgiveness and strength because you don't know what is wrong with you. I spent a lot of years in a never ending circle: sin, pray, sin, pray, pray, pray, ask for help, ask forgiveness, go six months without that sin, sin, sin, pray. Every time it happened I would ask what was wrong with me. Finally it came to a point when God put it on my heart 'You know, you do wrong and then you repent. You are so sorry and so full of remorse and I forgive you. You pray for strength and I give it to you. But you put yourself right back in the same place all over again and commit the same sin all over again. In that moment of temptation I am nowhere in your heart. After it's done you come to me, why not call for me before you delve back in?'

At that point I realized that I hadn't really wanted to change. I knew what I was doing was wrong, sometimes I wanted to change, but when it came down to it I was to caught up in what was going on to really make it happen. After the temptation was gone God was my God again, but when it came back around sin was my God. You have to truly want to change that cycle and get out of it. God will help you, but when are you going to call on him? After the fact, or before the temptation hits you?

This rep thing is confusing, cuz i just tried to rep you, but it said i must spread before giving it to you again. I don't think I've repped you in a few weeks

 

[searle29678]

Yeah, you gotta spread it around....I tried to rep you too but I couldn't.

 

[4jacks]

Well if you two really need a fall back guy....
I guess I could help you out...
Go ahead... just make sure to hit the positive button
lol

 

[MERCY@GRACE]

Well if you two really need a fall back guy....
I guess I could help you out...
Go ahead... just make sure to hit the positive button
lol

Well shux.....only cuz you begged