College sin(s)

[doclkk]

I have found that being in college is the hardest place to be a Christian.

I have a few questions

1. Is social drinking a sin?

2. Is hitting on girls a sin? This sounds funny, but basically, getting as many numbers for kicks and/or with guy friends for sport a sin?

3. Is clubbing a sin?

I think of WWJD and I don't think Jesus would do any of them.

 

[oncewaslost]

1) you're underage.

2) does it glorify God? are you showing the fruits of the spirit? by hitting on a girl are you treating her like an object rather than a person?

3) does it glorify God? are you going to get a few drinks and stare at girls who are scantily dressed?

 

[jenste]

Here's how I'd answer your questions.....
1. If you're not underage then if it isn't to the point of drunkenness, then it's fine.
2. Just think of how the girl would feel if she knew she was part of a contest and you weren't truly interested in her. That should answer your question.
3. Clubbing is fine if you don't go to do the previously mentionned. I truly like to dance for the sport of it and because I like music. I could be dancing with my grandfather or brother for that matter and I would like it just as much. How you dance, how you act and the image you give off to others are a different matter.

 

[Living4Him03]

what are you doing at the clubs and with your friends and why are you drinking? If you are sinning there then yes. I have been to bars with my friends or places where we sit at the bar and I sometimes get a strawberry daquiri...but didn't drink til i turned 21. What's that verse? Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial. If someone has the exact verse please post it I would be much obliged. Hitting on girls for sport? NO, SHAME ON YOU.

 

[Living4Him03]

i mean YES IT IS BAD. You should only try to get to know a girl you are really interested in building a friendship with. And hitting on girls in bars...well, if you want to get yourself into alot of trouble go ahead.

 

[Living4Him03]

sorry i assumed you meant you do those things...so shame on those who do that!

 

[Breetai]

1. No, but it can lead to sin.

2. a) It depends on your intentions.
b) yes

3. No, but it is a location with many temptations to sin.

Don't just go clubbing with the boys to pick up. It's not good. I used to do it all the time for fun. I still get the urge sometimes, but it's simply not a nice thing to do. It corrupts your mind more then you know.

I used to get drunk at clubs and see how many girls I could convince to come home with me, then call them nasty things for agreeing to come with me. I'm not saying that you would do that (it was a horrible thing to do). I started my heavy partying at your age, when I began University.

I would say that good places to meet girls are at school, church or at any other place where everyone involved in sober. Not at a club.


Hey Living4Him03, is that verse Romans 7:19-20?

For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

The verse you were thinking about sounds like something that Paul would say.

btw, I've been running into you a lot in these forums Living4Him03.

 

[Buskanaka]

#1- didnt Jesus do that? Like at the party when he turned the water into wine? I don't think there's anything wrong with it unless you go too far and get drunk, that's when you start having problems.

#2- definitely bad! What could possibly be right about that, for a Christian anyway. No way is that a Godly activity.

#3- like the others have said, it's not necessarily wrong but there is a lot of opportunity for you to get into bad situations.

 

[mamaneenie]

I have found that being in college is the hardest place to be a Christian.

I have a few questions

1. Is social drinking a sin?

2. Is hitting on girls a sin? This sounds funny, but basically, getting as many numbers for kicks and/or with guy friends for sport a sin?

3. Is clubbing a sin?

I think of WWJD and I don't think Jesus would do any of them.

1. I thought in America you weren't allowed to drink until 21. Am I right, in Aus, it's 18. If you are underage, you are breaking the law, and it is WRONG!

2. Ask yourself, how do you think it makes someone feel if you take their number and never call? Playing with other's feelings is not a "sport"

3. I have struggled with this myself. I like to dance, BUT, I found that I was getting up to no good in the clubs. I am outgoing in nature, and this has been misunderstood by guys who think I am flirting with them. I think you need to look at your motives for going to night clubs. In the end, I found I did actually like the attention I was getting from sleazy guys, not really an activity for someone who calls themself a Christian.

 

[Echoes Peak]

what are you doing at the clubs and with your friends and why are you drinking? If you are sinning there then yes. I have been to bars with my friends or places where we sit at the bar and I sometimes get a strawberry daquiri...but didn't drink til i turned 21. What's that verse? Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial. If someone has the exact verse please post it I would be much obliged. Hitting on girls for sport? NO, SHAME ON YOU.

Okay, Living..I'm think you're referring to 1 Corinthians 10...because 1 Corinthians 6 has a similiar verse but it's reference to sexual immorality. Either way, here's the passage for 1 Cor. 10:23-33.


1 Corinthians 10:23-33
23"Everything is permissible"--but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible"--but not everything is constructive. 24Nobody should seek his own good, but the good of others.
25Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, 26for, "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it."[3]
27If some unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience. 28But if anyone says to you, "This has been offered in sacrifice," then do not eat it, both for the sake of the man who told you and for conscience' sake[4] -- 29the other man's conscience, I mean, not yours. For why should my freedom be judged by another's conscience? 30If I take part in the meal with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of something I thank God for?
31So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God. 32Do not cause anyone to stumble, whether Jews, Greeks or the church of God-- 33even as I try to please everybody in every way. For I am not seeking my own good but the good of many, so that they may be saved.

 

[Living4Him03]

Thanks Echoes Peak! That's what I was talking about, although the verse breetai mentioned is also a good one to meditate on.

Breetai, it seems I have been running into many people again and again on these forums! My classes for the semester are pretty much done and I just am waiting to hear about a job. SO, I have plently of time to sit and play on CF, althought I should probably do something more productive

 

[doclkk]

I think your responses to 2 and 3 are good and I agree.

My only question remains with drinking - doesn't Paul tell Timothy that a little wine is ok. Timothy was 15 ish right?

Anyway, drinking - not to the point of drunkenness, but I mean, drinking chill drinks such as Malibu sunsets or Sex on the beach.

So essentially then, it's not the drinking that's wrong - it's the age?



As for question 2 - is Church really a good place to pick up girls? Don't you think that if one goes to church to pick up girls, then going to church will now have an additional purpose and one that is not completely God based.

 

[oncewaslost]

well, we are to follow the laws of the land unless they go against scripture. i've never heard timothy mentioned as being 15. that's a new one on me. if you could show me where that was i'd thank you.

who says you have to "pick up" girls at church? that's a little insulting to me. why not just befriend them?

 

[Living4Him03]

yah, i agree with oncewaslost, getting to know girls in church or guys is NOT wrong! no, it's not the main purpose of going to church, but if God brings two people together that way, why say it's bad?

 

[prince didymus]

Here's my response:

1. Drinking a sin? No. Drunkeness? Definitely. However if you are considered to be underage where you live then I advise you to use your own discretion (or just don't do it or whatever). Well I'm 18 and so I can drink if I wanted to but I really don't go places where there is alcohol or what have you.

2. I personally don't desire to indulge in doing this (hitting on girls) but if you put it another way such as rather talk to them so as to meet new friends.....or a potential special someone then it's completely fine.

3. It depends. If the place you're going to is none for having trouble then no. But if its a place you can feel comfortable with your friends then go ahead and enjoy yourself.

 

[Breetai]

I suppose I was correct in my assumption that the verse was from one of Paul's letters The verses that Echoes quoted seems to be right on. Thanks Echoes, it was beginning to drive me crazy too.


Ya L4H3, my classes just finished too. I've been bored lately because of no classes and I need lots of study breaks! I came here because my gf just broke up with me and I was looking for some support. I definetely found some here by reading and posting through these awesome forums. I've also been hanging out with my Christian friends too. They are always there in tough times. There is nothing like spending an evening singing worship songs to clear your mind of how unfair life can be. I'm so glad that I know Jesus.

If it sounded like I said that church is a good place to pick up girls, my words were "meet girls". Sorry if I confused anyone.

 

[msjones21]

1. Is social drinking a sin?

2. Is hitting on girls a sin? This sounds funny, but basically, getting as many numbers for kicks and/or with guy friends for sport a sin?

3. Is clubbing a sin?

1. Yes, drinking is a sin. Proverbs says wine is a mocker and beer is a brawler. And Jesus turned water into wine, but He did not partake of it. Also, there were three types of beverages that have been translated as "wine" in the Bible. One was a grape juice that people would drink during celebration. One was a strong drink for people who were painfully ill. The last was a fermented drink that caused drunkeness. The wine Jesus turned the water into was a grape juice. So yes, social drinking is a sin. Are you edifying Christ? Would you hold up a beer can with Jesus sitting next to you and say "cheers!"?

2. Yes, playing with people's emotions and getting phone numbers for sport is a sin.

3. Clubbing isn't sinful in and of itself but I highly doubt anyone goes clubbing to be a Christian witness. Would you be ashamed if you ran into someone you had been witnessing to at the club? Do you dance seductively with people? Do you listen to music that is meant to arouse sexual curiosity? Do you drink, smoke, or do drugs to enhance your "clubbing" experience?

 

[Breetai]

I wonder if this will turn into a "is drinking really a sin" debate.

btw, holding up a beer can with Jesus witting next to me isn't something that I'd do. I would hold up a beer MUG and say: "Prost!" Because German is the holy language. jk

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There more I think about it, the most I never want to go to a club again. Dances=yes, clubs=no, pubs=well...ya I think that a couple of beers is OK.

 

[msjones21]

Okay bottom line, why do people drink? Not one person can honestly say "oh I just do it because I love the way it tastes". Alcohol is an acquired taste. I loved drinking back int he day because it helped me loosen up in social settings. People drink to get drunk, it serves no other purpose. Coke tastes better than a beer, but being the only person in a group of people at a bar drinking a Coke doesn't look "cool". People drink to fit in, people drink to get drunk, people drink to unwind. Those are all sinful, selfish reasons to partake of alcoholic beverages.

 

[oncewaslost]

i know people who don't drink to get drunk. that's a wrong assumption.