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Cognitive Behavioral Therapy

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I would like to share my experience with Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, and would love to hear any others' experiences with it.

I started going to CBT about 7 months ago, prior to taking any medication. It was odd sitting in front of another person and sharing all the junk in your head, essentially. I just kept trying to remind myself that she has probably heard worse. Anyways, the therapy really helped me to change the way that I look at situations, and at people. It helped me to rewind, when an irrational or negative thought pops into my head. More so, it helped me to recognize that certain thoughts were irrational, which I did not see before.

However, even though the therapy helped in this way I found myself spinning wheels a lot. Because I could not stop my thoughts from existing. They were just there. Because I exist, the thoughts exist. I then found myself spending a lot of energy trying to control the thoughts in my head. Move them around in some way, truly not believe them, or try to get rid of them....until I realized that I cannot get rid of myself.

Trying to not ruminate on the thoughts was also hard. When I would step outside myself, and try to objectively look at the thought I would beat myself up sometimes because the thought was there to begin with. For instance...driving along the road and I realize 10 min. later that for no good reason I have spend the past ten minutes thinking about running my car into a pole, and then imagining my funeral, and being dead. I did not understand why this thought was there to begin with. I could not seem to stop it from having been there. I then felt guilty for having thought it, and would almost be mad at myself for having that thought because I do not feel that is something I would ever do. I would also truly believe that many people are out to get me- coworkers, and even loved ones. I could not stop myself from believing these thoughts were reality. The panic attacks that came with much of this was hard to deal with. The list goes on..

Anyways, I want to say that the CBT has helped me to analyze my thoughts better, and try to look at different scenarios, and even try to not believe all my thoughts. However, I must say that since I've started taking medication, miraculously, abt. 90% of my irrational, morbid, or negative thoughts have simply disappeared altogether. I also find I have a much more easy time objectively looking at a thought that pops in my head, and also am not having mood changes either prior to it or following it, like before. I find that I can use the CBT much more effectively in my life now. Whereas before, I found it almost impossible. I am actually thinking of stopping the CBT soon, since I feel so much better. I think that I can take what I have learned so far from it, and actually be able to apply it now.
 
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I have bee in CBT and have read Feeling Good by Burns. I am reading it again but his mew version which is the handbook. I have been doing the triple column every day for the past 2 weeks now. He says if you stick with it for a month you will see an improvement. So I will try it for a month. Right now I am struggling with a lot of anger and anxiety. In my honest opinion, running for me is the best therapy. I try to run 20 plus miles a week. I belong t a few running groups and being around these folks bring much joy to my life. I have my doubts with cbt.
 
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I have tried CBT and it did not work for me , I could not stay fouced on it long enough to do it , so I gave it up for a while then went back and it still was not a help . I have a hard time holding my thoughs togeather so it does me no good . I know it has worked for others and I would tell people to try it because you don't know if it will or will not work for you if you do not try it . I think it is wonderful that it has worked for other , just wish it would help me .
 
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I have bee in CBT and have read Feeling Good by Burns. I am reading it again but his mew version which is the handbook. I have been doing the triple column every day for the past 2 weeks now. He says if you stick with it for a month you will see an improvement. So I will try it for a month. Right now I am struggling with a lot of anger and anxiety. In my honest opinion, running for me is the best therapy. I try to run 20 plus miles a week. I belong t a few running groups and being around these folks bring much joy to my life. I have my doubts with cbt.

That's the second time now that I've seen that book recommended on this site. I might have to check that out. Also, running and exercise does help so much. It isn't a total fix for me, but it does help tremendously. I also enjoy yoga which provides both a mind and body workout. Practicing yoga forces you to slow down your mind, and focus. I've been slacking on work outs lately, but need to get back in to it.
 
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I have tried CBT and it did not work for me , I could not stay fouced on it long enough to do it , so I gave it up for a while then went back and it still was not a help . I have a hard time holding my thoughs togeather so it does me no good . I know it has worked for others and I would tell people to try it because you don't know if it will or will not work for you if you do not try it . I think it is wonderful that it has worked for other , just wish it would help me .

Staying focused has been difficult for me as well. The therapy has helped change the way I think about things, and really analyze it vs. just believing my thought right off the bat. That's primarily all. I might try the above mentioned book.
 
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I don't know if you have heard of " Recovery Inc." it is all based on the works of Abraham A. Low , M.D. . He is a psychiatrist and neurolgist . I have all his books and have them on CD as well . It is a very interesting story . You should take the time to look up " Recovery Inc. " as well as Dr.Abraham A. Low , M.D . It is a CBT program based on his works .
 
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CBT and REBT and the like are all good for some issues. Just because I deal with mental stuff doesn't mean I don't have normal problems too. I'm definitely about learning all the tricks of the trade. CBT for bipolar? Not really in my case. Sometimes it helps to kick out a few thoughts, but I still have my bag of meds.
 
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yea...I've actually stopped the therapy since this post. The medication I started has pretty much stopped the paranoid thinking and all of the above. I feel much better now, and plus I feel like the therapist and I have pretty much come to a stopping point where we've worked through everything I initially came to her for. Continuing to go would be a waste of money and time right now.
However, I am finding that book "Feeling Good" really helpful now. I think anyone and everyone could benefit from reading it. Not just people with BP disorder. I find it really practical, and am actually getting more out of it than I did from going to therapy.
 
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I think it is a great tool. If you find others, do share. My caution is in the whole stoicism part that comes with CBT. It is ok to have emotions and be affected by the world around. (Beck is interesting, but way over my head) I like REBT too. That is related to CBT. Let me think. Ellis. Probably not going to appreciate all his ideas since he wasn't fond of Christianity until later, but there are some good things to come away with. (like dating) You might think it is the dummy version of CBT. (personally, I think the CBT people like too many big words and random label abbreviations) At least Cognitive therapy assumes we have thoughts and feelings. Behaviorist techniques are good for some things too. But the whole "we're just machines" philosophy behind behaviorism is garbage.

For many of my issues I find that learning about family systems therapy helps. I totally disagree with their stuff on mental illness or family violence. But there is something to find there to work on other issues that make mental illness worse. I really get a lot out of family therapists who deal with how people interact in my family. Oh, sure, my family isn't about to show, but that doesn't mean I can't learn about it.

(Still thinking.) some accessible books (popular easy to read) might be older works by christians Cloud and Townsend. They don't write on mental illness, but they do write on common issues christians--and especially the mentally ill--struggle with. I like them because they sortof give a therapeutic shield against stuff christians will try to advise the mentally ill with.

Dialectical therapy is supposed to be good for those with borderline as well. Trained, yes, but no idea if it helps. Psychoanalysis is good for learning about personality disorders and I think they have some great insights on ways we avoid facing stuff. (a good look at a list of defense mechanisms might give you a laugh and some ideas) The rest of their writings I wouldn't even use as toilet paper it is so awful. Correction: harmful. (believe what you want, but I think psychoanalysis harms people) Gestalt is hogwash. I think Carl Rogers had some easy great ideas about listening and accepting people being healing. Heck, everyone could use a good class on intro to logic or critical thinking or logical errors (fallacies)--especially those of us who struggle with thinking and feeling. (overpriced book by Hurley for example) Mental illness movies are often insightful. Yes, to get therapists trained, they often start with movies and novels. So, we can use them too. If you aren't a hypochondriac--thinking you have every problem you read about--reading about mental disorders might be useful in identifying things. Not because you might have them, but because learning about paranoia (paranoid parrot) or feeling the world isn't real (depersonalization or derealization) or whatever, might help identify things you think are normal--or find out that you aren't alone and that some stuff is normal. I wouldn't go buy a DSM or something--because it definitely does not work the way most people think it does. You do not just follow the directions in it. It requires knowing a lot of other stuff. (following the directions would be like thinking all red pills are good and all blue are bad) I have no idea where anyone is at that is reading my post, but I really got a lot out of Surviving Manic Depression. I don't care for most bipolar books, but that one is pretty good. I like that he talks about the spectrum theory between manic depression and schizophrenia. At least I think he does there. It is an accessible book for others who might be interested--like family or girlfriend. If you can get them to read it.

Art therapy is always fun. Well, at least I get something out. A friend is a retired music therapist. I have no idea what they do. I'm definitely all for group therapy lead by a therapist--if you can find a group. It gives a safe little world to experiment in. Support groups are good too, a little different because they aren't usually led except to get things started.
 
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