Anyone one here listen to the band, Cradle?
Everyone seems out to get Marilyn Manson, everyone looks over Dani Filth.
Everyone seems out to get Marilyn Manson, everyone looks over Dani Filth.
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I'm a dedicated Cradle follower, as you know. And the fact that Dani Filth is so easily passed over is proven by the fact that no one has replied this post, despite the length of time it has been here and the attention other posts have received. It just goes to show--in my eyes, as far as the comparison between Marilyn and Dani--that Christians* and Manson have a more symbiotic relationship. It has been accurately stated that Manson had affiliations with LaVey's Church of Satan, and as LaVey himself wrote, "The Christians owe much to Satan, as he has kept them in business all these years!" I don't honor that as an absolute statement, but the point is that Manson CONSCIOUSLY goes worth and actually TRIES to start up cultural havoc with Christian* society... something on which Christianity thrives: after all, the response has been incredible! The amount of energy and manpower directed at this one man is astounding. But if they were really going by influence and lyrics, they would have attacked Filth. Filth stands there strong, intimidating and untouched because it does not invite the same playful GAMES that Manson does. Marilyn Manson is harmless--he's just stirring up trouble and indulging in decadence, exploiting America's weak points and as such making people more aware of them. Dani Filth and his ever altering line-up, meanwhile, stands aloof with lyrics such as these...
"I shall bow no more to the dogs of the Lord
Tearing at my carcass heart
I shall fall to my knees only at the keyholes
Of Virtue slipping into bondage masks...
Freewill made me better to reign in hell"
and
"He would not heel nor fake a bow
Murmur curses to the wind
Enraged, he raved in balrog howls
Upon a storm firstborn of sin
Incensed anew, rebellious tore
Like frenzied beasts of prey
Through temple doors...
Thrown east before the midnight masses"
*used as a general term: to those within the title to whom it may apply
"I shall bow no more to the dogs of the Lord
Tearing at my carcass heart
I shall fall to my knees only at the keyholes
Of Virtue slipping into bondage masks...
Freewill made me better to reign in hell"
and
"He would not heel nor fake a bow
Murmur curses to the wind
Enraged, he raved in balrog howls
Upon a storm firstborn of sin
Incensed anew, rebellious tore
Like frenzied beasts of prey
Through temple doors...
Thrown east before the midnight masses"
*used as a general term: to those within the title to whom it may apply
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I think the music is often ok, I just can't stand Danni's screams, ack, I like screams in general, but Dani's I just can't stand, his growls are ok though. I'm not a CoF fan at all, but can apreciate the music a bit.
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