coercion is it a sin?

[davidspetri]

Okay so I've been studying the bible lately and been curious is coercion a sin if so doesn't god coerce and the government coerce with this laws obey or be punished if that's not coercion then can someone explain it to me

 

[Winken]

Check out our original discussion. "Ethics" and "Morality" can mean whatever to whomever. The Christian relationship to God is through Jesus, in the ministry of the Holy Spirit.

 

[LOVEthroughINTELLECT]

Theologically I do not know if coercion is a sin.

But locks only keep honest people out.

I do not understand why coercion is the first choice of governments and why it is applied broadly and indiscriminately.

If people would do something anyway, threatening them with punishment seems irrational to me.

I could be wrong, but I would say that the people who have to be coerced would be more likely to change if they are surrounded by people who are not being coerced. Don't coerce everybody into sending their kids to school, and the ones who have to be coerced will be shamed and therefore more likely to change their attitude. Coerce everybody and the ones who have to be coerced will see no difference between themselves and the socially responsible majority.

 

[Greg J.]

What's the difference between encouraging, influencing, pressuring, and coercing someone in your mind?

 

[Moxie123]

Okay so I've been studying the bible lately and been curious is coercion a sin if so doesn't god coerce and the government coerce with this laws obey or be punished if that's not coercion then can someone explain it to me

It's ok if God "coerces" because he is everyone's boss whether they agree with that or not.

Let's look at some maxims of law regarding contracts:

• Consent makes the law. A contract is a law between the parties, which can acquire force only by consent.

• Consent makes the law: the terms of a contract, lawful in its purpose, constitute the law as between the parties.

• To him consenting no injury is done.

• He who consents cannot receive an injury.

• Consent removes or obviates a mistake.

• He who mistakes is not considered as consenting.

• Every consent involves a submission; but a mere submission does not necessarily involve consent.

• A contract founded on a base and unlawful consideration, or against good morals, is null.

• One who wills a thing to be or to be done cannot complain of that thing as an injury.

• The agreement of the parties makes the law of the contract.

• The contract makes the law.

• Agreements give the law to the contract.

• The agreement of the parties overcomes or prevails against the law.

• Advice, unless fraudulent, does not create an obligation.

• No action arises out of an immoral consideration.

• No action arises on an immoral contract.

• In the agreements of the contracting parties, the rule is to regard the intention rather than the words.

• The right of survivorship does not exist among merchants for the benefit of commerce.

• When two persons are liable on a joint obligation, if one makes default the other must bear the whole.

• You ought to know with whom you deal.

• He who contracts, knows, or ought to know, the quality of the person with whom he contracts, otherwise he is not excusable.

• He who approves cannot reject.

• If anything is due to a corporation, it is not due to the individual members of it, nor do the members individually owe what the corporation owes.

• Agreement takes the place of the law: the express understanding of parties supercedes such understanding as the law would imply.

• Manner and agreement overrule the law.

• The essence of a contract being assent, there is no contract where assent is wanting