CNN Goes Full on Glenn Beck

[MoonlessNight]

You're OK with moderate levels of Russian interference into our election?

What, specifically, does "moderate levels of Russian interference" mean?

If a second generation immigrant was given advice on how to vote by his Russian grandparents, does that count?

 

[Saucy]

Maybe because his team was responsible for vetting Flynn and maybe because Obama warned him and he refused to listen?
Also this?

Okay, so how does that connect Trump to Russia? Big deal, Flynn had some business dealings in Russia. Most politicians do. That still doesn't prove Trump colluded with the Russians, when Flynn wasn't hired until later. It's not Trump's fault that Flynn lied about his dealings. It wouldn't even have come to light if it wasn't for illegal unmasking of names. That's the only crime here.

 

[DaisyDay]

With no proofs whats or ever?

What makes you think there is no evidence this happened? The investigation is still ongoing.

Moreover was said several times: the election votes are not changed.

Why would that matter? Why are you okay with them even attempting to interfere?

 

[Rion]

What, specifically, does "moderate levels of Russian interference" mean?

If a second generation immigrant was given advice on how to vote by his Russian grandparents, does that count?

It means they think Russia leaked the DNC's dirty secrets, and are upset over it, rather than the dirty secrets that were revealed.

 

[DaisyDay]

Okay, so how does that connect Trump to Russia?

Trump has his own connections.

Big deal, Flynn had some business dealings in Russia. Most politicians do.

Flynn wasn't supposed to be a politician. He was a military general and head of the Defense Intelligence Agency. As such, he was not allowed to have "some business dealings" with Russia or any other foreign government without authorization from Congress - which he never sought and which he lied about, which is a crime.

That still doesn't prove Trump colluded with the Russians, when Flynn wasn't hired until later.

Who is saying that Trump has colluded with the Russians? No one, as far as I know. He is just getting dangerously close to obstruction territory.

It's not Trump's fault that Flynn lied about his dealings.

It's Trump's responsibility to see that his team is properly vetted. It was Trump's responsibility not to ask Comey to "let it go".

It wouldn't even have come to light if it wasn't for illegal unmasking of names. That's the only crime here.

You're jumping the gun saying that any "unmasking" was illegally done. And no, that is not the only crime here. Flynn's accepting money from the Russians and lying about it was two separate crimes.

It's possible that Trump's attempted intimidation of Comey for whistleblowing, threatening him for his testimony to Congress, is obstruction of justice. He should tread lightly.

 

[jgarden]

It means they think Russia leaked the DNC's dirty secrets, and are upset over it, rather than the dirty secrets that were revealed.

The Russians deliberately attempted to influence the 2016 Election by targeting the DNC - our conservative friends would be contesting the validity of that election if only the "dirty secrets" from the RNC had been leaked!

 

[jgarden]

Okay, so how does that connect Trump to Russia? Big deal, Flynn had some business dealings in Russia. Most politicians do. That still doesn't prove Trump colluded with the Russians, when Flynn wasn't hired until later.

The position of National Security Advisor would have allowed Flynn access to all of the nation's secrets - that is a big deal for someone whose activities with the Russians are already suspect!

Flynn was a US General, not a politician - Trump was warned both by President Obama and the Acting Attorney General, and yet he chose to do nothing until the fact that Flynn lied to the Vice President became public!

It's not Trump's fault that Flynn lied about his dealings. It wouldn't even have come to light if it wasn't for illegal unmasking of names. That's the only crime here.

The Trump Administration lacked a vetting process that would independently verify the activities of its appointees - apparently "Saucy" wants to give Tump a free pass even when it concerns his own appointments.

 

[Cearbhall]

These threads act as if our intelligence agencies don't exist...

 

[Saucy]

CNN Goes Full on Glenn Beck

Given that all 17 of America's intelligence agencies are in agreement that the Russians deliberately tried to interfere with the 2016 Elections, what are the White House and Republican majorities in the House and Senate doing to ensure that history doesn't repeat itself during the 201 Midterms?

That's not true. It's a nice liberal talking point, but only three intelligence agencies agree. It was confirmed by James Clapper himself.

But Clinton’s statement is false regarding the unanimity of the 17 agencies and misleading regarding her other claims. Both former DNI James Clapper and former CIA Director John Brennan acknowledged in sworn testimony last month that the Jan. 6 report alleging Russian “meddling” did not involve all 17 agencies.



Clapper and Brennan stated that the report was actually the work of handpicked analysts from only three agencies—the Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency and Federal Bureau of Investigation—under the oversight of the DNI’s office. In other words, there was no consensus among the 17 agencies, a process that would have involved some form of a National Intelligence Estimate (or NIE), a community-wide effort that would have included footnotes citing any dissenting views.

A Pack of Excuses and the ‘17 Intelligence Agencies’ Falsehood

 

[Rion]

The Russians deliberately attempted to influence the 2016 Election by targeting the DNC - our conservative friends would be contesting the validity of that election if only the "dirty secrets" from the RNC had been leaked!

Apparently it was an upset Bernie Bro according to Wikileaks. I mean, seriously, it doesn't take the GRU to figure out obama08 as the password.

 

[KCfromNC]

What, specifically, does "moderate levels of Russian interference" mean?

Hacking up to the point of no votes being changed. See the post I was responding to for context.

 

[KCfromNC]

Okay, so how does that connect Trump to Russia? Big deal, Flynn had some business dealings in Russia. Most politicians do.

Citation needed.