Clinical Depression?

[newleaf]

What do you feel about clinical depression?
Many people, both Christians and non-Christians, suffer from this crippling illness. I thought I'd like to start a discussion on this.

 

[Jim47]

I have two internet friends who suffer from it, both women. One refuses help and fights with you when you try to help, the other, although I think is worse extends her hand in friendship and seeks help from those around her. I wished I knew more about this, but frankly I don't think even doctors have a good grasp on how to treat it, otherwse there wouldn't be so many who suffer from it.

 

[newleaf]

I have two internet friends who suffer from it, both women. One refuses help and fights with you when you try to help, the other, although I think is worse extends her hand in friendship and seeks help from those around her. I wished I knew more about this, but frankly I don't think even doctors have a good grasp on how to treat it, otherwse there wouldn't be so many who suffer from it.

Thanks for your input. Indeed, how can depression be treated? That becomes the question. Many people find help with various medications, while others do not. Some people just feel sick, with the meds. I know we get better, when we trust in Christ, yet when enough negatives hit a person hard, it can be tough to recover. Some people give up in the worse possible way. Can an equal amount of positives tip the balance back? Hmmm. All for now.

 

[Johnnz]

Depression is complex, and there are several recognised types. Many respond well to medication which can indicate that psycholgical factors are not the prime cause. Nor are simplistic solutions - eg praise it away.

Depression always needs to be taken seriously. It can be life threatening.


John
NZ

 

[newleaf]

Amen, indeed.

 

[Machachachi]

Depression can take a person and destroy their foundations its a powerful and destructive force the deserves a serious outlook that doesn't go around trying to blame that person for something that is often times chemical.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

simple

 

[steve5]

i have suffered from depression before i was saved and after.
It has got a lot better since i have focused on being set free from strongholds in my mind and negative thoughts. My thoughts used to, and still can cripple me or bring an paralysis, where i sink deep into a dark pit.
To be honest, what made it worse was that i convinced myself that as a christian i should never be feeling that way. The misconceptions, misunderstandings, and myths concerning depression were held by myself. It was magnified by not being able to talk it through with other christians who also held pre-conceived ideas.
Steps to freedom came when i finally acknowledged and accepted the truth that i suffer from depression. This laid the foundation to seek out good balanced literature, and a search of the scriptures on this subject. It was defintely the key to unlocking the door to a better life. I still battle in my mind, but i now know the warning signs, tricks of the enemy and what to do when i feel that despair and depression setting in.
In short, depression must not be underestimated, but God can and does bring the rays of sunshine to penetrate the darkest skies.

 

[marshaneedsjesuslove]

Hi I'm needing to talk to people who know or can help me with depression i'm very sick of it and really want to know if people get better. please talk to me for this I am very sad to have come to this place in my life I can't handle it any more

 

[marshaneedsjesuslove]

Plaese could I connect with people to talk to i need friends in jesus I've haad some bad deals with my Ex.

 

[Johnnz]

Hi,

Feel free to PM me.

John
NZ

 

[VonBarnstejn]

Plaese could I connect with people to talk to i need friends in jesus I've haad some bad deals with my Ex.

Marsha needs Jesus’ love!

“Plaese could I connect with people to talk to i need friends in jesus I've haad some bad deals with my Ex.”

At times in our lives we all have some bad experiences, through war or through domestic experiences. Most people seem to get through this seemingly unscathed, some turn their reaction into anger, some to drugs or strong drink and others become depressed. Now depression is like a two sided sword, it is both a medical condition and a state of mind; the two are strongly intertwined. The medical side of the condition can be helped by the services of a good doctor with anti-depressant medication, the state of mind however, can only be repaired with divine help. Prayer and fasting (if your medical doctor recommends this in addition to his treatment) are a great help for those who are down in spirit. From my experience with returned soldiers there are things that definitely DO NOT help, for example anger and substance abuse such as illicit drugs and alcohol. In the cases that I have known calming music, like classical music or Gregorian Chants, has soothed many worried minds. Having an understanding family or a caring circle of friends is also very beneficial to the recovery from depression which – believe me – is not only treatable but curable.
The caring family member or friend’s role, in the medical side of the problem, is most likely to be that of a willing ear, non-judgmental but supportive. If you do not have a person of that kind in your immediate circle of people you deal with regularly, see your Pastor and he will either by himself or with the assistance of a caring Christian help you to overcome the “state of mind” effects of your “bad deals” and get your state of mind back to the peaceful level where it should be.
May God bless you on your way back to a normal life.


Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. (John 14:27 NKJV)

Chaplain

Grace Evangelical Ministries

 

[The-Doctor]

Having suffered from Anxiety and depression there is no "One size fits all" when dealing with it. I found talking to a counsellor helped me but that might not be of benefit to others. I think the first step might be to speak to you doctor and take it from there. THere are a couple of sites on the internet that offer some assistance with this problem. One is TAPIR (The anxiety panic internet resource) a forum for sufferers. The other is No Panic which is a UK based internet group.

Good luck with that...all I will say is it takes time.

 

[ContentInHim]

Hi I'm needing to talk to people who know or can help me with depression i'm very sick of it and really want to know if people get better. please talk to me for this I am very sad to have come to this place in my life I can't handle it any more

Hi,

I suffered from depression for years. Before I was saved, my doctor put me on Paxil which relieved my symptoms almost completely. My husband then died and my dose was upped. Gradually it was lowered and finally I "heard" God tell me that I should go off it, I was OK and he would protect my body from the drug until I quit taking it. I did stop in November, 2005, without any withdrawal and have not taken it since.

I won't tell you that I don't have blue moments anymore - I do! But now I have the Lord to lean against when it all gets to be too much. He hasn't let me down yet.

 

[jon1]

I'm sorry to hear how you are feeling at the moment and I can fully understand where you are coming from, I suffer from clinical depression after I suffered a stroke a few years ago. Its one of the side effects I am told. However what does seem to lift me is talking to people who also suffer from these symptoms. I seem to " have been there and got the tee shirt", in this subject.
If I can be of any help please let me know.
God bless.
John.

 

[jon1]

oops, wrong post.

 

[EveryoneNeedsCompassion]

What do you feel about clinical depression?
Many people, both Christians and non-Christians, suffer from this crippling illness. I thought I'd like to start a discussion on this.

As someone who has suffered what Doctor's today deem "Clinical Depression," I have come to see that, although it does have an obvious chemical, and physical cause, alot of it is Spiritual.
Throughout my journey, and spirals, previous medications, and councelling, I came to the conclusion that, without taking into consideration that a spiritual battle was a possible cause of my illness, I was cutting out my chances of getting healthy.
Prayer helped alot in my healing, aswell as reading God's word in my Bible, and talking with close family members, and friends openly about my struggles and weaknesses at the time.
The devil attacks people in many ways. The bible says he is a subtle killer, a theif, and here to destroy our lives one by one, or even in masses if possible.
Most people to date, consider the body to only be effected by the physical realm, and therefore; say it can only be treated by medecine. They scough at the idea that prayer could make that much of a difference, even some Christians who are faithful, and true do not take into context that medecine may not help at all.
If the devil really is subtle then wouldn't he attack that ignorance of our society. We fight spiritual warfare with medecine, it doesn't work, depression comes on, and people commit suicide, and numb themselves on drugs for the rest of their lives if they can fight off that horrible first outcome.
By no means am I knocking anti-depressants. Sometimes they are needed, even if only for a short time.
All I'm saying is maybe there is more to it than we think. Afterall if you walked downstairs one night, and the devil was sitting in your arm chair.... Would you throw tylenol at him. I command you to leave in the name of Aspirin!
Lol, I don't think so. Just try it and see. God saved my life from an illness so many people die from mentally, or physically everyday. He is there for you too!

God Bless!

 

[rebornfree]

Hi, I'm sorry you are feeling so bad. I am suffering from depression too. I think people do get better but it's hard to see that when you are down. I find it helps if people realise how bad it is. Someone else acknowledging that you are in pain somehow helps - I don't know why. I would like my friends to understand how bad it is for me. I pray that God helps us both and gives us hope in our different situations. He knows all about them and He loves us.
God bless you.

 

[faithpilgrim]

Warning about the meds handed out like candy these days.

http://www.modbee.com/local/story/13533556p-14137410c.html

My son had recently been placed several different psychiatric drugs including antidepressants only to become very aggressive. They kept switching them and still he became aggressive.

Turns out his problem is physical, not mental. However, the drugs made the problem much worse. We’ll be checking out all medications prescribed very thoroughly online now before swallowing even one pill! Forget the simple warnings handed out by the drs and stores. Look for the professional data’s warnings.

Please if you are depressed, get a family member or close friend to help you watch for symptoms and check out all meds closely, if you go that route.

 

[flaglady]

It's physical, psychological, emotional, spiritual, relational, dietary and anything else you can think of. I don't think you can ever separate one bit from the other.

As a man (Lenin, I believe) once said "Everything is connected to everything else"! Never could be more true than with depression. There's a kind of common denominator in depression where you have something happen that causes you to feel bad which then causes some hormonal upsets (won't go in to detail here) which increase other hormones and make you feel worse. You retreat into yourself, cut yourself off from friends and family, the isolation makes you feel worse. You stop eating well, maybe even imbibe a bit of alcohol and feel worse. Don't sleep and get overtired, feel worse. See doctor who gives you tablets that maybe mask the symptoms but don't alter the cause. They also have side effects which compound the bad feelings - and so on and so on.

The solution is in your hands to find a good counselor who can help you root out the real cause and tackle it. The other stuff may need medical assistance but the root will always be in your hands. Trouble is - and I know this from a life time of battling with this awful condition - it's pretty much the last thing you're capable of doing and all you really want is someone you can hang on to until things improve enough for you to deal with them.

I really hope and pray that you find such a person and that God will bless you with enough strength and insight to fight this off.