Climate deal struck in Paris

[Oafman]

COP21 climate change summit reaches deal in Paris

What are people's thoughts?

Personally, I think this is about as much as we could reasonably have hoped for. I have become so jaded, watching these negotiations pan out over the last 2 decades, and the failure of Kyoto and Copenhagen, that any global agreement to keep warming below 2'C feels like a pretty successful outcome.

It is a pity that this agreement is only partially binding, in legal terms, but there was never a chance of more than that. Ultimately, I think this is a step in the right direction, but many more such steps are going to be required in the years ahead.

Also, isn't it nice to have a good news story at the top of the agenda, for once?

 

[Aelred of Rievaulx]

COP21 climate change summit reaches deal in Paris

What are people's thoughts?

Personally, I think this is about as much as we could reasonably have hoped for. I have become so jaded, watching these negotiations pan out over the last 2 decades, and the failure of Kyoto and Copenhagen, that any global agreement to keep warming below 2'C feels like a pretty successful outcome.

It is a pity that this agreement is only partially binding, in legal terms, but there was never a chance of more than that. Ultimately, I think this is a step in the right direction, but many more such steps are going to be required in the years ahead.

Also, isn't it nice to have a good news story at the top of the agenda, for once?

I think humans have already or most likely will in the future irreparably damaged the climate. I'm a defeatist with no faith in humanity.

 

[AHH who-stole-my-name]

If it weren't for my faith in God, i would say we can only do enough to kill us off and after that, the world would clean itself.

 

[Aelred of Rievaulx]

If it weren't for my faith in God, i would say we can only do enough to kill us off and after that, the world would clean itself.

And then God will start again... Another species may evolve in the next million years or so a concept of God and God will interact with creatures again.

 

[Sistrin]

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$100 billion a year in climate finance for developing countries by 2020, with a commitment to further finance in the future.

Where is that money coming from?

 

[Oafman]

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$100 billion a year in climate finance for developing countries by 2020, with a commitment to further finance in the future.

Where is that money coming from?

From the taxpayers of countries who already got rich by emitting greenhouse gases.

 

[Oafman]

I think humans have already or most likely will in the future irreparably damaged the climate. I'm a defeatist with no faith in humanity.

 

[Aelred of Rievaulx]

Pretty much...

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I think humans have already or most likely will in the future irreparably damaged the climate. I'm a defeatist with no faith in humanity.

It's not irreparable. Once humans are taken out of the mix the earth will quickly start to repair herself.

 

[AHH who-stole-my-name]

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$100 billion a year in climate finance for developing countries by 2020, with a commitment to further finance in the future.

Where is that money coming from?

It will be like the future. It will always be on the way but It will never get there.

 

[Cerberus~Infinite]

I think humans have already or most likely will in the future irreparably damaged the climate. I'm a defeatist with no faith in humanity.

Cheerful thoughts like that prevent suicide! Keep it up!

 

[Cerberus~Infinite]

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$100 billion a year in climate finance for developing countries by 2020, with a commitment to further finance in the future.

Where is that money coming from?

From us, silly. We need to pay China because of our pollution so they can pollute more and we can all feel good about ourselves...or some nonsense like that.

 

[loveofourlord]

even if this doesn't stop it it can slow down giving us time to try to find solutions.

Also who cares where the money comes from? were going to have to pay now or later, either fixing/slowing it now, or paying to fix stuff that climate change breaks.

 

[MennoSota]

It's not irreparable. Once humans are taken out of the mix the earth will quickly start to repair herself.

Out of curiosity will you be the first to volunteer to be taken out of the mix? [emoji33]

 

[GQ Chris]

liberals believe in abortion "on demand", do you think they really care about human life because of the threat of false science. lol

 

[GQ Chris]

STOP GLOBAL SCAMMING!!!

 

[Sistrin]

From us, silly. We need to pay China because of our pollution so they can pollute more and we can all feel good about ourselves...or some nonsense like that.

You win the thread.

 

[AHH who-stole-my-name]

liberals believe in abortion "on demand", do you think they really care about human life because of the threat of false science. lol

There are those who are liberal who are as Christian as you. They may not believe that the problem is abortion but the situation that makes abortion seem so necessary in other peoples lives. They may be looking more deeply into the situations than you think.

 

[Aelred of Rievaulx]

Cheerful thoughts like that prevent suicide! Keep it up!

It's pointless to commit suicide... Whether or not you see the beginning of the end in the next 50 years or not is ultimately pointless. Do you really think that anything is going to dramatically change in terms of economic or ecological action in order to hinder this?

 

[faroukfarouk]

The moralizing for high levels of taxation in Western countries became somewhat relatively discredited when the Berlin Wall came down, and the subsequent chain of events. The whole climate change (of course, they can't even agree whether the climate is warming or cooling so they have to call it change) discourse offers politicians a set of what they present as unassailable ideas which seem to justify the high levels of taxation and state intervention for which socialism formerly seemed to offer a moralizing basis.