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Clement of Alexander did not condemn loving homosexual monogamous relationships

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Der Alter said:
My direct citations are from primary sources; Talmud, Jewish Encyclopedia, and early church fathers. But you will note that your unidentified "quotes" do not even qualify as secondary sources. Just unknown guys giving their irrelevant [Irrelevant in Der Alter's <note: the staff has editted this post> opinion] opinions.


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We aren't writing a Midterm paper with footnotes here. YOU are the one with the burden to disprove or discredit my information. If you have a problem with any of my sources, prove that my Scholars aren't actual Scholars. Your source is an INTERPRETATION of the Talmud, but I am certain you don't know the difference between an interpretation and the truth. Phrases such as "irrefutable evidence according to the Talmud", are actually ways of fabricating actual evidence, when an interpretation is NOT evidence or irrefutable to start!

Again, you weasel out of the truth. Your only way of debating is to "try" to disprove my sources, when their references have been cited, along with their degrees and most often from the institution they were received from.

"They don't qualify as secondary sources", according to Der Alter's <staff editted> opinion.
 
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........

We aren't writing a Midterm paper with footnotes here. YOU are the one with the burden to disprove or discredit my information. If you have a problem with any of my sources, prove that my Scholars aren't actual Scholars. Your source is an INTERPRETATION of the Talmud, but I am certain you don't know the difference between an interpretation and the truth. Phrases such as "irrefutable evidence according to the Talmud", are actually ways of fabricating actual evidence, when an interpretation is NOT evidence or irrefutable to start!

Again, you weasel out of the truth. Your only way of debating is to "try" to disprove my sources, when their references have been cited, along with their degrees and most often from the institution they were received from.

"They don't qualify as secondary sources", according to Der Alter's unqualified, and uneducated opinion.
Exactly!
 
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[SIZE=-1]We aren't writing a Midterm paper with footnotes here. YOU are the one with the burden to disprove or discredit my information. If you have a problem with any of my sources, prove that my Scholars aren't actual Scholars. Your source is an INTERPRETATION of the Talmud, but I am certain you don't know the difference between an interpretation and the truth. Phrases such as "irrefutable evidence according to the Talmud", are actually ways of fabricating actual evidence, when an interpretation is NOT evidence or irrefutable to start!

Again, you weasel out of the truth. Your only way of debating is to "try" to disprove my sources, when their references have been cited, along with their degrees and most often from the institution they were received from.

"They don't qualify as secondary sources", according to Der Alter's unqualified, and uneducated opinion.[/SIZE]

According to every HS, college and university everything you post does NOT even qualify as a secondary source! Your cut/paste and homosexuals-&#1103;-us.com® links would not even make it in a HS term paper.

Good thing you are not writing a paper for academic credit because it would fail. NOTHING is properly cited. You quote no sources or references, nothing but a bunch of words with a name tacked onto it. Logical fallacy, "Appeal to Authority,", Hearsay.

While we may not be writing papers for credit, we are standing in the court of world opinion. Who has credible, verifiable, historical evidence that would convince an impartial person?

I have disproved your sources. There is nobody named Furnish on the faculty of Perkins School of Theology, Dallas, he is supposed to be a professor of. Truluck is supposed to have a Doctor of Theology degree from SBTS. They do NOT offer such a degree. The only theology degrees they offer are DMin, ThM and PhD.
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&#8226; Doctor of Ministry (D.Min.)
&#8226; Doctor of Missiology (D.Miss.)
&#8226; Doctor of Music Ministry (D.M.M.)
&#8226; Doctor of Educational Ministry (D.Ed.Min.)​
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&#8226; Master of Theology (Th.M.)
&#8226; Doctor of Education in Leadership (Ed.D.)
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My quotes from the Talmud, are directly from the Talmud, tractate Sanhedrin, portfolio 54, as stated, NOT an interpretation of anything. If as you claim I am supposed to disprove your sources, get busy and disprove the Talmud, google comeandhear and look it up. Then read it and weep.

Also my quotes from the early church fathers are directly from their own writings NOT an interpretation of anything. I provided the link to every citation. You do NOT even know the difference!

Outside this forum and discussions with other homosexuals, your quotes from homosexuals-&#1103;-us.com® are worthless for any purpose. As I said they are not identified and cannot be verified, just a bunch of words with some name tacked on.
 
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