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The promise is the greater gift of course!!! It was made to you!!! Not to the babies fighting over whose land belongs to who!!!

God gave it to them as their inheritance. And you received the promise? Or do you try to steal a rock from a baby and reject the promise of the diamond?
 
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Such is the way of the playground.

Some of the children are sitting in the corner alone waiting for the promises.

Others are ganged up together looking to fight. Not pleased they see others...

Laughing and playing rejoicing over the rock one received who received together sharing the joy.
 
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What does God require of you oh man?

To act justly. To love mercy. To walk humbly with your God.

Looking up like little children expecting to receive every good thing that daddy has to offer!!!

Heaven and earth and everything in it belong to God. Rejoice he gave it all to you and your brother!!!

So who sowed the weeds of destruction Cain? Were you angry your brother received a rock but you only a promise?
 
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Ten times the children of Israel tested the Lord and not one except Aaron and another from that generation entered the promised land.

Ten commandments God gave to man.

The first command : do not make for yourselves idols.

And so on... do not lie
Do not kill
Do not covet

Etc etc etc

Ten tests of obedience...
Ten commandments fulfilled in one : do to others what you would have done to you.

Does it stand to reason that the rejection of Gods ten commandments in order to follow childish desires will bring destruction?
 
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Fathers what do you require of your children? Mothers who will you teach your children to be?

2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 3 "You shall have no other gods before me. 4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand [ generations] of those who love me and keep my commandments.
 
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43 Why is my language not clear to you?

I've quoted this before, but someone once said, "The biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has occurred." The bible is full of abstract words like; grace, sin, salvation, repentance, law, justice, etc. I notice people have a way of attaching their own understanding to words like these, and then do not realize when talking to others who are using the same words - yet attaching their own different understanding to the words - they are experiencing a very real communication breakdown. They cannot understand one anothers speech, as it were.

Interestingly, the name "Babylon" isn't really in the manuscripts of the bible, it is an English use of a different cultural name for the same locale: much as though "Egypt" is actually called "Mitzraim" in the Hebrew. But the word "Babylon" is what the translators chose to put in the place of the Hebrew word "Babel". So when we read of the "king of Babylon" in the English, it is really "king of Babel": the translators seem to have felt putting the common English name "Babylon" in place of "Babel" would spare English readers a bit of understanding, since they would be more familiar with the locale by the name "Babylon" - much in the same way they changed "Mitzraim" to "Egypt" since English redears would read of the children of Israel departing Mitzraim and may not understand where this was, and so changing it to "Egypt" allows the English reader more readily understand what country was being departed.

But, in the case of "Babylon", I feel a great disservice has been done, in that the reader now fails to understand the tie into the city and tower of Genesis 11, the beginning of the "Babel" and doesn't realize that the biblical "Babylon" is one and the same as "Babel"

The word "Babel" of course means "confusion" because it was at Babel that the languages of men were "confused" and "they could not understand one another's speech"; and when we see the name "king of Babel" it literally translates to "king of confusion"; and when we get to "Great Babylon" in the Revelation, it literally translates "Great Confusion"; carrying with it through the reason of that given at Genesis 11 for the name of the kingdom.

Genesis 11:9

Likewise, I don't think it is a coincidence that this same "confusion of language" is very present to a great degree in the churches, as they have all adopted their own understanding of the words, and now we come to a place where they "cannot understand one anothers speech" as alluded to by Jesus in the quoted verse. A great communication breakdown.
 
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Yes John. And this is why Jesus also said, "Stop grumbling among yourselves for no one can come to me unless the Father enables him. As it is written: "all will be taught by God."

This is also why the apostle writes, "crave pure spiritual milk so that you may grow in your salvation."

The Holy Spirit is our "Wonderful counsellor"
 
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Oral language is native to man's spirit, angels and God. Through God's Word and the renewal of our spirit we learn God's language which includes His ways and truths.

It's what sets man above the beast. The gift of God - the ability to understand wisdom. He gave men a spirit of reason.
 
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It's what sets man above the beast. The gift of God - the ability to understand wisdom. He gave men a spirit of reason.
And some men (born again) have been given further understanding...

And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual. The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
(1Co 2:13-14)
 
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