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<blockquote data-quote="OllieFranz" data-source="post: 65188670" data-attributes="member: 194533"><p>Then explain Ring Species. They are neither "tightly controlled lab environment(s)" nor "minor reversible changes." The population at one end can not interbreed with the population at the other end, so there is no way to reverse the separation. And if one of the intermediate populations goes extinct, as happened in Siberia with the Greenish Warbler, then even the theoretical possibility of re-integrating the population through successive breedings with the intermediate populations is gone. Western Warblers are completely and permanently cut off from the original stock and the eastern Warblers.</p><p></p><p>We do see speciation happen naturally in front of our eyes. The debate continues only because the YECs are willfully ignorant of that fact. Shutting one's eyes and complaining that one does not see any evidence is directly comparable to the childish tactic of putting ones fingers in ones ears and shouting in orderto avoid hearing evidence one wishes not to acknowledge.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OllieFranz, post: 65188670, member: 194533"] Then explain Ring Species. They are neither "tightly controlled lab environment(s)" nor "minor reversible changes." The population at one end can not interbreed with the population at the other end, so there is no way to reverse the separation. And if one of the intermediate populations goes extinct, as happened in Siberia with the Greenish Warbler, then even the theoretical possibility of re-integrating the population through successive breedings with the intermediate populations is gone. Western Warblers are completely and permanently cut off from the original stock and the eastern Warblers. We do see speciation happen naturally in front of our eyes. The debate continues only because the YECs are willfully ignorant of that fact. Shutting one's eyes and complaining that one does not see any evidence is directly comparable to the childish tactic of putting ones fingers in ones ears and shouting in orderto avoid hearing evidence one wishes not to acknowledge. [/QUOTE]
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