CIA says, no WMD found

[Havoc]

No banned weapons found in Iraq: CIA
Last Updated Thu, 25 Sep 2003 17:07:15
WASHINGTON - No banned weapons have been found in Iraq since the end of combat, says an upcoming interim report from the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency.

Officials at the intelligence agency say the interim report from David Kay, the CIA's chief weapons inspector, won't reach any conclusions about the search for weapons of mass destruction.

Since U.S. President George Bush declared the end of major combat on May 1, Kay has led the U.S. effort to locate the biological, chemical and nuclear weapons that were the stated justification for the war. (emphasis here and below mine)

After four months of searching thousands of suspected weapons sites, and interviewing scientists thought to have worked on developing the weapons, neither the U.S. nor the British teams have been able to say they have found anything that supports those prewar accusations...

Copyright © CBC 2003

Not a problem, just change the reason after the fact.

 

[TheBear]

Didn't the CIA also say that OBL was dead?

Who knows who to believe these days?

 

[aragorn]

What an absurd reply by the Bear.
If the CIA were going to lie about it they'd be lieing by creating a big complex of WMD to be found, because while it's true that they are experts in deception. They do their lieing on behalf of the Imperial aspect of the American government.

 

[MichaelFJF]

David Kay's report is preliminary. There are millions of pages of documents to examine. WMDs were only ONE reason - not THE reason. Get the facts straight. And once again - we KNOW they were there - he used them on his own people. M

 

[ashibaka]

And once again - we KNOW they were there

because we sold them to him!

 

[yen]

What were the other reasons MichaelFJF? The fact that he had ties to terrorist networks? Well that can't be it, that's been disproven as well. Liberation? Well that wouldn't make sense, we support oppression in other countries that are far worse than Iraq. Hrm

 

[TheBear]

I just think the CIA can't get their act together with accurate intel. They did think that OBL was dead, on two different occasions, (or at least that's what they told the Pres.)

Also, why did Democrats along with Republicans, overwhelmingly vote in support of Bush using military force in Iraq? What was the basis of so much Democratic support? What was the Democrats reasoning for voting in support, and giving Bush the go-ahead to use the military force, in that 2002 Congressional vote? If not for suspected WMD's, what was it?

 

[Satisfied]

...... And once again - we KNOW they were there - he used them on his own people. M

And the reason you (the U.S.) "knew" (assumed) they were there was because YOU (the U.S.) sold him the WMD in the first place!!

The perfect set-up. Sell him the WMD, tell him invading Kuwait would be a "local affair" that the U.S. would ignore, then bust him for following your set-up. Pretty slick. Not only does the U.S.& co. get the oil, rebuilding contracts, but they also get the contracts to replace all the munitions and armaments expended there as well as creating a nation of debt-slaves out of Iraq.


His own people?? The Kurds were *considered* illegal aliens by Iraq. Neither are they liked in Iran or Turkey. I just wanted to de-myth that one without justifying his use of WMD.

Satisfied

 

[Havoc]

David Kay's report is preliminary. There are millions of pages of documents to examine. WMDs were only ONE reason - not THE reason. Get the facts straight. And once again - we KNOW they were there - he used them on his own people. M

Get your facts straight. WMD was THE reason the US HAD to go in "RIGHT NOW!!!"

The "liberate the poor people" excuse didn't happen until after WMD failed to turn up.

 

[Satisfied]

Also, why did Democrats along with Republicans, overwhelmingly vote in support of Bush using military force in Iraq? What was the basis of so much Democratic support? What was the Democrats reasoning for voting in support, and giving Bush the go-ahead to use the military force, in that 2002 Congressional vote? If not for suspected WMD's, what was it?

Why?????

I'll tell you why.

Because Iraq was 'a potential' threat to Israel and Israel and its lobby practically own both parties. Not to mention that Israel will be getting "free" Iraqi oil via a 42 inch diameter pipeline running from Kirkuk to Haifa.

Ignore the words and follow the money and you will usually get to the bottom of things.

Satisfied

 

[Jesus_loves_you]

"Ignore the words and follow the money and you will usually get to the bottom of things. "

That's the truth!

Remember the old Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.

 

[Hound]

Weapons of mass destruction, weapons of mass distraction. Having fought in Iraq, I DONT REALLY CARE. The Baath party government in Iraq was a bunch of murderous thugs. Murdering, torturing and raping their own people. I am proud to have helped remove them from power. Wether or not they had a stash of nukes or tanks of bio-weapons is an issue used to distract you from what is currently happening.

 

[Satisfied]

Weapons of mass destruction, weapons of mass distraction. Having fought in Iraq, I DONT REALLY CARE. The Baath party government in Iraq was a bunch of murderous thugs. Murdering, torturing and raping their own people. I am proud to have helped remove them from power. Wether or not they had a stash of nukes or tanks of bio-weapons is an issue used to distract you from what is currently happening.

"What's currently happening" is that an average of 9 U.S. men and woman are returning from service in Iraq in body bags because the Iraqi people are so appreciative that the "murderous thugs" have been removed from power. And this is after the U.S. declared "the war is over".

"What's currently happening" is that Israel is building a 42 inch diameter pipeline from Kirkut to Haifa to rape Iraq of its resources.

Policing the world is not the job of the United States, and never was. Internal affairs are the business of that particular country. How would you like it if China attacked the U.S. because the U.S. gassed and torched their own people (Waco)?

How would you like it if your neighbor down the street pre-empted a strike on you 'cause he heard a rumour that you beat your wife and had a gun that you intended to use on him. Not only that, but he 'knew' the rumor was true because he sold you the gun, ammo AND the chains that you beat your wife with?

Oops, I meant "the chains that you allegedly beat your wife with".

How do you think the law would view this man who just shot you based on an unsubstantiated rumor he heard. And that he did it unprovoked on your own property?

If the United States was run internally on the same principles that it is plying on the world it would be just and fair. What goes around comes around.

Satisfied

"Be not deceived, god is not mocked, for whatsoever a man soweth, THAT shall he also reap"

 

[Douglaangu]

because we sold them to him!

"Iraq has incredible weapons" How do you know? "Well, er.....we looked at the receipt"
-Bill Hicks

 

[MichaelFJF]

Hmmmmm - someone who's been there or someone who whines about it from behind a keyboard - who's opinion should I trust? Decisions, decisions. This is a tough one.M

 

[Douglaangu]

Given the tone of your posts, and your sig I doubt it matters much, since you're convinced that you are right.

 

[Havoc]

Well I've been to Croatia, Namibia, Syria, Golan, Cyprus, and Iraq/Kuwait the first time around... does that count?

 

[TruthTraveler]

I bet Sadam and OBL are eating cookies at Bill Clintons house right now.

 

[Hound]

"The burdens of distant people are the responsibility of all men and women of conscience, or their burdens will one day become our tragedy."

 

[gybefan]

"The burdens of distant people are the responsibility of all men and women of conscience, or their burdens will one day become our tragedy."

So what about all the other regimes we've failed to overthrow, or have put into power?

I agree that the situation in Iraq was awful. But I don't believe for one minute that that was the real reason for the war. Why even mention the (nonexistent) weapons of mass destruction otherwise?

Democracy begins at home.