Church stampede leaves 20 dead/16 wounded

[Pavel Mosko]

(In Tanzania)

"...Pastor Boniface Mwamposa, who heads the Arise and Shine Ministry and calls himself “The Apostle”, reportedly poured “holy oil” on the ground, prompting the crowd to surge forward in the hopes of touching it."


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[JackRT]

the only word that comes to mind is "hysteria".

 

[Zoii]

the only word that comes to mind is "hysteria".

Theatre - Everything has so much greater importance when their is theatre - whether its a religious service, a wedding or the opening of the Olympic games - The greater the theatre, the greater the emotional investment.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

the only word that comes to mind is "hysteria".

I would say it was desire.People are hungry and thirsty for Lord Jesus and they will do just about anything to have Him. It is sad that a gimmick got people killed and hurt, but it shows how desperate the human condition is.

 

[Pavel Mosko]

I would say it was desire.People are hungry and thirsty for Lord Jesus and they will do just about anything to have Him. It is sad that a gimmick got people killed and hurt, but it shows how desperate the human condition is.

Yes but I also see it as proof text situation for "decently and in order" aspects of 1 Corinthians 14. That situation can be easily mitigated by having deacons, or elders, etc. distributing whatever it is for the church service, and insisting that people form lines to receive, and behave themselves etc. and sharply rebuking people that ignore such directives.


I think some of what happened is an unfortunate side affect of the showmanship that happens with many Charismatic ministries. Lots of things are engineered both intentionally and unconsciously to be exciting because many people equate spontaneity with "the anointing" / Holy Spirit but in some ways that is a false equivalency, because in the Bible etc. not everything that had the Holy Spirit, or was HS empowered was done extemporaneously (many things were liturgical which is the opposite of spontaneity).


This sort of thing is a long standing issue that I have with the movement after being in a number of years and still having some ties with it (various friends and people I know).

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Yes but I also see it as proof text situation for "decently and in order" aspects of 1 Corinthians 14. That situation can be easily mitigated by having deacons, or elders, etc. distributing whatever it is for the church service, and insisting that people form lines to receive, and behave themselves etc. and sharply rebuking people that ignore such directives.


I think some of what happened is an unfortunate side affect of the showmanship that happens with many Charismatic ministries. Lots of things are engineered both intentionally and unconsciously to be exciting because many people equate spontaneity with "the anointing" / Holy Spirit but in some ways that is a false equivalency, because in the Bible etc. not everything that had the Holy Spirit, or was HS empowered was done extemporaneously (many things were liturgical which is the opposite of spontaneity).


This sort of thing is a long standing issue that I have with the movement after being in a number of years and still having some ties with it (various friends and people I know).

Desperate people do desperate things.It i sad but it is true.

 

[FireDragon76]

Well, I think Pentecostalism is all smoke and mirrors. Now it's physically unsafe smoke and mirrors.