Church Staff

[JohnJones]

It is my contention that any church that hires a staff loses its right to call itself a church - it is now nothing more than a business or corporation peddling a corrupt form of the gospel to make a few bucks. But, I'm sure some will disagree with such a view as that, so I simply and humbly ask where it can be found in the Bible that Paul, just an example, hired a staff?

 

[2+2=5]

It is my contention that any church that hires a staff loses its right to call itself a church

So in your opinion; is the position of Pastor/Shepard considered “staff”

 

[KagomeShuko]

It is my contention that any church that hires a staff loses its right to call itself a church - it is now nothing more than a business or corporation peddling a corrupt form of the gospel to make a few bucks. But, I'm sure some will disagree with such a view as that, so I simply and humbly ask where it can be found in the Bible that Paul, just an example, hired a staff?

I don't think Paul ever did that, and staff is not NECESSARY, but what about churches that use bulletins? Who is going to give a good ten hours of their week to just sit and make bulletins and newsletters without being paid for such a thing?

What preacher is going to preach without a salary unless they really want to run one of those little church in the houses type thing and they are not looking to be a preacher.

Faith will exist, and I think God uses all kinds of people and there is nothing wrong with church having a staff for doing what needs to get done. Pastors even have to do things! I don't think anybody really thinks they are getting paid to "do God's work."

Stein Auf!
Bridget

 

[butterfoot]

With Technology today the way it is I would do my church's bulletins if I was asked to at no charge to the church. I have a real good color printer at home that I have used to make missing posters at no charge to the person needing them. They couldn't have afforded it otherwise. I did ask some of my friends and a few buisnesses in the area for donations and gave my time to print the flyers.

Honestly I think that should be the way it is. I used to work cleaning a church when I was in High School and I did get paid but in hindsight I should have done it for free.


-CW

 

[KagomeShuko]

With Technology today the way it is I would do my church's bulletins if I was asked to at no charge to the church. I have a real good color printer at home that I have used to make missing posters at no charge to the person needing them. They couldn't have afforded it otherwise. I did ask some of my friends and a few buisnesses in the area for donations and gave my time to print the flyers.

Honestly I think that should be the way it is. I used to work cleaning a church when I was in High School and I did get paid but in hindsight I should have done it for free.


-CW

Some people have to make a living, though.

Some people don't have the money to make bulletins like that - and not all churches can afford this new technology.

I put together bulletins for every week and you would not find me doing all that I do for free. It is "manual labor" after all. There are plenty of other things to do that are ministry related and I'd never ask for pay.

Stein Auf!
Bridget

 

[reformedfan]

Paul rebuked churches for not supporting their pastors & John for the same with travelling missionaries.
Churches have light bills, H2O bills, garbage bills, bills when vandals break the windows, when trees fall in the parking lot & have 2 b removed, should they worship in a field every Sunday, not have bulletins, outreach, ministries, either cuz then they living the ideal, no output of cash for needed services? That's after all what secretaries, Pastors, assoc pastors (who also draw a salary if the church is worth a pinch) offer: needed services that should be compensated: "Pay the worker his wages". Is it heathenish to shop at the grocery store & pay the salaries of the cashiers, stockboys, mgmt, etc, but Spiritual to rip off the pastor, secret, asst, ect.

 

[drstevej]

But, I'm sure some will disagree with such a view as that, so I simply and humbly ask where it can be found in the Bible that Paul, just an example, hired a staff?

Paul never used a microphone, fax or had printed buletins.

Non-biblical does not mean un-biblical necessarily.

BTW, do you deduct your charitable gifts to your church from your taxes?
Is your church chartered or incorporated? Is it a 503C3?
Does the church own property?

 

[I can eat 50 eggs]

are you serious?

 

[Pilgrim and stranger]

It is my contention that any church that hires a staff loses its right to call itself a church - it is now nothing more than a business or corporation peddling a corrupt form of the gospel to make a few bucks. But, I'm sure some will disagree with such a view as that, so I simply and humbly ask where it can be found in the Bible that Paul, just an example, hired a staff?

I would go further to say that the local assembly should have no clergy! They constrain the work of the Holy Ghost.

 

[armothe]

Frankly, I don't see what's so wrong with the church being considered small, interconnected local groups of people worshipping in eachother's houses.

What's the alure of meeting in a large building with a hundred/s or so of other people?

-A

 

[Pilgrim and stranger]

Frankly, I don't see what's so wrong with the church being considered small, interconnected local groups of people worshipping in eachother's houses.

What's the alure of meeting in a large building with a hundred/s or so of other people?

-A

Why do they have to be interconnected? Why can these assemblies not be independent?