Church hurt

[tturt]

Probably all of us know of someone who has been hurt in church. So asking to remember them in our prayers to Jehovah Rapha, our healer.

 

[createdtoworship]

Probably all of us know of someone who has been hurt in church. So asking to remember them in our prayers to Jehovah Rapha, our healer.

Amen brother, I agree with you in prayer of this. "A brother offended is harder to win than a strong city" Proverbs 18:19 a

 

[Anthony2019]

Unfortunately, I've found this happening far too often in our churches.
The church is supposed to be a place of welcome, forgiveness and grace. Jesus saves to the uttermost and his central message is of forgiveness, restoration, and love. Far too often people are going to church to be judged rather than to be loved.
For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility (Ephesians 2:14).
By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another (John 13:35).

 

[createdtoworship]

Unfortunately, I've found this happening far too often in our churches.
The church is supposed to be a place of welcome, forgiveness and grace. Jesus saves to the uttermost and his central message is of forgiveness, restoration, and love. Far too often people are going to church to be judged rather than to be loved.
For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility (Ephesians 2:14).
By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another (John 13:35).

if you care more about being right and pointing out why people are wrong than you do about loving them, then you look more like a pharisee than Jesus. This is a problem with the church today, just look at the theology threads, not a lot of grace for differing perspectives. We are all different and have different ideas, it's important to love people where they are at.

 

[Anthony2019]

if you care more about being right and pointing out why people are wrong than you do about loving them, then you look more like a pharisee than Jesus. This is a problem with the church today, just look at the theology threads, not a lot of grace for differing perspectives. We are all different and have different ideas, it's important to love people where they are at.

I totally agree with you. It disturbs me to see people reacting rudely or disparagingly when they disagree. This does not just happen in church. It also happens online where people have the benefit of anonymity. But Jesus knows our hearts. He sees all of our words and actions, even our "idle words". Our words either give glory to Him or they don't.

 

[LoricaLady]

Nothing in the Bible tells us to go to a Church anyway. The word "Church" is simply a Greek translation for Ekklesia which only means a gathering of believers at any time. Yes, we are told not to forsake fellowship, but, again, we are never told to go to a Church.

Some start home Bible studies as a replacement for Churches when they have felt disappointed by mainstream religion. What does the Bible say to do on the Sabbath? It says to rest. To not cook. To make sure even servants (think stores and restaurants) and animals don't work. To not buy or sell (per Isaiah). To keep the day holy unto the Lord - as to say not being a time spent watching Netflix or other secular entertainment.

Churches have done immense good where they have stuck to the true Gospel message. But if people feel they are not being blessed there, they are free to not go and to seek fellowship in other ways.

 

[createdtoworship]

Nothing in the Bible tells us to go to a Church anyway. The word "Church" is simply a Greek translation for Ekklesia which only means a gathering of believers at any time. Yes, we are told not to forsake fellowship, but, again, we are never told to go to a Church.

Some start home Bible studies as a replacement for Churches when they have felt disappointed by mainstream religion. What does the Bible say to do on the Sabbath? It says to rest. To not cook. To make sure even servants (think stores and restaurants) and animals don't work. To not buy or sell (per Isaiah). To keep the day holy unto the Lord - as to say not being a time spent watching Netflix or other secular entertainment.

Churches have done immense good where they have stuck to the true Gospel message. But if people feel they are not being blessed there, they are free to not go and to seek fellowship in other ways.

we need fellowship as christians, you would be suprised at the amount of people who have been hurt by religion and now when asked to go to church use it an an excuse to not go to any church, home fellowship, or building. It really ultimately lies on us if we get hurt to correct it and find a place that suits us well, not give up.

 

[Stephanie7]

Heavenly Father, with all those emotional hurts that resulted from clergy, those officiating in the church and it's members, may we forgive them. May we all find church a pleasant and helpful place to be to learn of Your love, peace, compassion and mercy, In Jesus Name, Amen

 

[tturt]

Joining others and asking for healing for all who were hurt in church - leaders, congregation, and those who haven't given their hearts to the Lord.

May we be able to "Ezra thanked Yahweh, the great Elohim. All the people responded, “Amen! Amen!” as they raised their hands and then bowed with their faces to the ground and worshiped Yahweh." Neh 8:6

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His church the new temple - as one

 

[LoricaLady]

we need fellowship as christians, you would be suprised at the amount of people who have been hurt by religion and now when asked to go to church use it an an excuse to not go to any church, home fellowship, or building. It really ultimately lies on us if we get hurt to correct it and find a place that suits us well, not give up.

We do need fellowship with Christians as I said because that is what the Word says. The Bible does not tell us to go to Church however. We are not told that we shouldn't "make an excuse" not to go. We are just not told to go to a Church. If someone is being blessed in a Church, great. But if not, there are other ways to get fellowship and I pray they find them.

Notice that when Messiah was in the desert for 40 days and nights that He was not in any Synagogue on the Sabbaths or any other days. Notice that the 4th Commandment does not tell anyone to go to a Synagogue (or to a Church of course) on the Sabbath. Going to Church is a tradition. It is not a commandment in anyway. Again, though, if people are being blessed there, good. But they need have no guilt and need have no need to "make excuses" for any reason at all if they don't want to go to Church.

 

[createdtoworship]

We do need fellowship with Christians as I said because that is what the Word says. The Bible does not tell us to go to Church however. We are not told that we shouldn't "make an excuse" not to go. We are just not told to go to a Church. If someone is being blessed in a Church, great. But if not, there are other ways to get fellowship and I pray they find them.

Notice that when Messiah was in the desert for 40 days and nights that He was not in any Synagogue on the Sabbaths or any other days. Notice that the 4th Commandment does not tell anyone to go to a Synagogue (or to a Church of course) on the Sabbath. Going to Church is a tradition. It is not a commandment in anyway. Again, though, if people are being blessed there, good. But they need have no guilt and need have no need to "make excuses" for any reason at all if they don't want to go to Church.

"And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another..."Hebrews 10:25

 

[LoricaLady]

"And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another..."Hebrews 10:25

You are right because you quote the Bible. It does say we should not forsake assembling ourselves. It does not say we are to assemble in Churches, though. In fact, when that verse was written there was no such thing as a Church such as we know today. The early believers met in one another's homes or in Synagogues on the Sabbath. Again, the word "Church" does not mean a big building with a cross on top. It is a translation for "ekklesia" which means an assembly of believers anytime and any place. The body of believers are the Church.

I pray we all assemble where the Father leads.

 

[createdtoworship]

You are right because you quote the Bible. It does say we should not forsake assembling ourselves. It does not say we are to assemble in Churches, though. In fact, when that verse was written there was no such thing as a Church such as we know today. The early believers met in one another's homes or in Synagogues on the Sabbath. Again, the word "Church" does not mean a big building with a cross on top. It is a translation for "ekklesia" which means an assembly of believers anytime and any place. The body of believers are the Church.

I pray we all assemble where the Father leads.

That may be true, but the usual place for an assembly of christians is most often at church. So I guess I can go out on a limb and say church is commanded in scripture.

 

[LoricaLady]

The Bible is very clear in saying what is commanded and what is not. It also warns us sternly not to add to, or subtract from, the Scriptures. This is not a debate forum so I think it is best to say no more.

 

[createdtoworship]

The Bible is very clear in saying what is commanded and what is not. It also warns us sternly not to add to, or subtract from, the Scriptures. This is not a debate forum so I think it is best to say no more.

oh it's not up for debate, I simply believe the bible: "And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another..."Hebrews 10:25

 

[tturt]

Continuing to asks the Lord to heal those hurt in churches and other places of worship.