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This part is not fully true, people do look to what is said that supports their endeavours. I just thought your comment about following another religion might have given someone the idea that you knew the only correct path to God, and anyone walking a different path must be on the wrong path. I wasn't sure if that is really what you meant, I see now that it's not. Thanks for that clarificationBesides,nothing i do or say will convince anyone anyway.
Fits well with my understanding. He clearly does have a unique plan for each of us, and I think faith rather than belief is the more fair measure of one's regard for Him.Actually that is not entirely true,but i was only implying any other path was not wrong for them. Perhaps God allows some people more free-will than others,in particular those He has a "calling" for which cannot be accomplished following some other religious path. And He most certainly will not let me follow another way,to the point of even letting me know about it when i do stray outside of HIS plan even for a very brief time period. Don't ask me to explain. Just know that i personally have enough of a time trying to do His will and become prepared for that "calling" than to worry about how someone else is going there own way unimpeded by the Holy Spirit. And i suppose if there is no real inner conviction then it's the same as being "led" into that particular way of believing or thinking. For some reason God simply allows the "seeker" to do there own thing for the most part,or so it seems.
Maybe He is just happy for someone to actually believe He exists other than the 110% fundamentalist Christian? Just another way of saying He may already have enough preachers and apostles,etc.
I think that not every religion attempts to promote a 'gospel', a means by which to have salvation or relations with God. At the least, there are people in various religions who do not treat them as such, so I would assume that there is an extent of religious activity outside of Christianity that is not in direct conflict with Christianity. The passage from Micah was made before Jesus came along, so the purest context of that quote is actually made before the gospel of Jesus Christ was known. It is therefore not directly supportive of the gospel, but serves to state that God is superior to all others.I agree,and the real line in the sand for me has always been Galatians-1:8,which is really a slap in the face to ANY other "faith" or belief system.
But Micah 4:5 kind of nails it..."For all people will walk everyone in the name of his god,and we will walk in the name of the Lord our God for ever and ever."
So God is a real thing in this universe which you observe every day. That means you're merely assigning the term "God" to various things which are readily observable to all. Therefore, you are really a Pantheist.I'm not wrong, and no one on this earth will ever convince me otherwise. I see God everyday. Not literal, because you obviously can't see God's face. I see God's beauty when I gaze up at the stars in the sky and am awe stuck by how the universe is so vast and infinite. I see God in a glorious sunset on a beach. I saw God on the day I met my husband, because I knew he was the man I was going to marry.
The God you're saying is real is different than the god I'm talking about. I'm not talking about things like the stars, the sunset or the love you felt with the man you married. I'm talking about a supreme being who knows everything and can do anything.I've played that game before though 'what if I was wrong'. If I was wrong, then I lived a good life by high moral standards. I believed in a higher Entity that set a good examples for me to live by, and I tried my darnest to live by them. I die. The end.
But, God is very real, and we all have a choice.
Really? Can you choose to believe I own 60,000 orange fire breathing dragons and keep them on a big dragon farm in the middle of downtown Philadelphia?We choose not to believe or believe. I choose to believe without tangible proof, because if there was tangible proof don't you think most people would want to go to Heaven?
I'm often asked to consider what if I'm wrong. What if I'm wrong and I end up going to hell and suffer for eternity. Christians have presented Pascal's Wager to me in an apparent attempt to keep me from suffering for eternity in hell. But it's a two way street:
What if those who hold belief in the Christian God go to a hell of eternal punishment and suffering, while rational non-believers go to an eternal paradise full of love and happiness.
Have you ever considered this?
I'm often asked to consider what if I'm wrong. What if I'm wrong and I end up going to hell and suffer for eternity. Christians have presented Pascal's Wager to me in an apparent attempt to keep me from suffering for eternity in hell. But it's a two way street:
What if those who hold belief in the Christian God go to a hell of eternal punishment and suffering, while rational non-believers go to an eternal paradise full of love and happiness.
Have you ever considered this?
Why have you never had to consider that you may be wrong? There is nothing that gives me the idea that any kind of god has any intentions.
You don't need to understand decisions that God makes to understand that God can't love everyone and be capable of doing anything in the presence of mass suffering or mass calamity.
So you ignore the bad? How about the mass murderer who has given some of his time & money to charities. Would you worship that mass murderer for his altruistic deeds?0
What's relevant is that it is logically impossible for an all-loving & all-powerful being to exist in the presence of mass suffering or mass calamity.
I'm often asked to consider what if I'm wrong. What if I'm wrong and I end up going to hell and suffer for eternity. Christians have presented Pascal's Wager to me in an apparent attempt to keep me from suffering for eternity in hell. But it's a two way street:
What if those who hold belief in the Christian God go to a hell of eternal punishment and suffering, while rational non-believers go to an eternal paradise full of love and happiness.
Have you ever considered this?
It wearies me to see so many people misunderstand Pascal's Wager. Just like the bible, it gets taken out of context. Pascal's Wager was an 'offer' to those persons who, after considering other views, want to be a Christian but find it very difficult to do so. If was not a generic wager, but rather a specific wager--for those who want to be Christian.
I'm often asked to consider what if I'm wrong. What if I'm wrong and I end up going to hell and suffer for eternity. Christians have presented Pascal's Wager to me in an apparent attempt to keep me from suffering for eternity in hell. But it's a two way street:
What if those who hold belief in the Christian God go to a hell of eternal punishment and suffering, while rational non-believers go to an eternal paradise full of love and happiness.
Have you ever considered this?
Even if you haven't been in that situation, it is real, because others believe in a different God than you and have strong feelings about their own knowledge of the intentions and meaning of their God.
Do you think these people are simply misled, delusional, what do you think?
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