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Does the silent majority still have a voice, or is it even a majority any longer. The national average is that only 54% of those eligible to vote, do so. Why such a small turnout in a country run by elected officials. Some say their vote doesn’t count, others don’t like either candidate, then others are just too lazy to exercise their right to vote. There are probably many other reasons, but these will do for now.

Let’s say we have an estimated hundred million Christians in America and 46% decide not to vote for whatever reason, that means forty-six million have decided not to cast their vote. Could forty-six million votes swing an election from on candidate to another, of course it could. So if you are one that feels your vote doesn’t count, multiply that one vote by forty-six million and then rethink if your vote counts.

Many pastors today are pushing their congregations to vote, and rightly so. It isn’t just the presidential elections, but our state representatives, and ballot issues that Christians need to consider and vote on. Are our churches pushing one party over the other, sure many are but very quietly, as one pastor said, I can’t tell you who to vote for as he wore a Trump hat. Christians notoriously have voted Republican, I’m not implying all have, but most do.

As for our presidential candidates, I see problems with both, one being a criminal, the other not understanding what diplomacy means. The reality is one of them is going to win, and as Christians we are then required to stand behind and support that person. The new president will also elect Supreme Court Justices that can have a tremendous effect on our future freedoms.

Casting a vote for a candidate that has no chance of winning is of course saying you don’t like either party, but you are throwing your vote away. So remember, if you are one that for whatever reason has decided not to vote, think about the other forty-six million that have made the same decision and what effect your one vote may have. If you don’t vote, you have not right to complain about what our leaders do because you didn’t let your voice be counted.
 

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Maybe 46% don't want a government? If so, then that number is greater than the margin any candidate has ever won by, since even 80% of a 54% vote is less than the 46%.

Judges 9:14 does predict elections like this one, and God did tell Israel not to have a king. The NT is pretty clear: submit to the government, pray for them and pay taxes. Not a word about voting, though both Rome and Greece had democracies or republics of one sort or the other.
 
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I don't really see how you associate Judges 9:14 with our current political races. You are right that we need to be in submission to the leadership of our country, but you can't compare the political environment of the early church to ours. The fact that we have a right to vote, and can vote for those we believe will be the strongest supporter of Christian values I believe is an obligation that all Christians should participate in. If we take an apathetic attitude towards who will be our next president maybe God let us have a president that is not in our best interests. Look at the Kings of Israel, some sure weren't a blessing to Israel. You are absolutely right that we do need to pray for our leaders.
 
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I don't really see how you associate Judges 9:14 with our current political races.
We have a couple buckthorn trees running for office now. And I don't think the outcome will be any better than that predicted int he next couple verses.

I will let our opinions, now both posted, stand for anyone to see and think about.
 
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We have a couple buckthorn trees running for office now. And I don't think the outcome will be any better than that predicted int he next couple verses.

I don't blame the politicians or unbelievers for our country's decline.
I blame believers who neither prayed nor voted to change things. That
includes me many times.
 
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Maybe 46% don't want a government? If so, then that number is greater than the margin any candidate has ever won by, since even 80% of a 54% vote is less than the 46%.

Judges 9:14 does predict elections like this one, and God did tell Israel not to have a king. The NT is pretty clear: submit to the government, pray for them and pay taxes. Not a word about voting, though both Rome and Greece had democracies or republics of one sort or the other.

Israel was a subject country, but most Israelites
were not Roman citizens, as Paul was. They had
very few rights under Roman law.
 
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Israel was a subject country, but most Israelites
were not Roman citizens, as Paul was. They had
very few rights under Roman law.
Not at the time of the judges, or at the time of the establishment of the monarchy, and that is when the Scripture I am speaking of come from. The NT applies to the Greek speaking Christians, many of whom lived in the democracies and republics.
 
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I don't blame the politicians or unbelievers for our country's decline.
I blame believers who neither prayed nor voted to change things. That
includes me many times.
It's not really our responsibility to change things by voting. Our responsibility is to build the Kingdom of God. If we were better witnesses, there would be no one except committed Christians to run for office, because everyone would have been Christian long ago.
 
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It's not really our responsibility to change things by voting. Our responsibility is to build the Kingdom of God. If we were better witnesses, there would be no one except committed Christians to run for office, because everyone would have been Christian long ago.

When we are given things, God expects us to use them.
Remember the parable of the talents? That applies to
those who lead us, when we are given the chance to
choose godly over ungodly representatives. We have told
God that we want corrupt leaders, because we let them
be elected, and he will not overrule our choices. He gave
Israel kings, and he will give us dictators.
 
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When we are given things, God expects us to use them.
Remember the parable of the talents? That applies to
those who lead us, when we are given the chance to
choose godly over ungodly representatives. We have told
God that we want corrupt leaders, because we let them
be elected, and he will not overrule our choices. He gave
Israel kings, and he will give us dictators.
Long ago I had this whole concept out with God, although not with application to voting (which is not a talent). God reminded me the guy given 10 got 10 more and thus had a total of 20 at the end. He told me the guy with 5 was not punished for not having 10 more, total 15, but only 5 more, total 10. As a follower of Jesus, my skill set is more equipped for changing the world through changing hearts, than through trying to choose between opposing bramble bushes.
 
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Long ago I had this whole concept out with God, although not with application to voting (which is not a talent). God reminded me the guy given 10 got 10 more and thus had a total of 20 at the end. He told me the guy with 5 was not punished for not having 10 more, total 15, but only 5 more, total 10. As a follower of Jesus, my skill set is more equipped for changing the world through changing hearts, than through trying to choose between opposing bramble bushes.

As individuals, we can touch individuals
or small groups. We can elect those who
will affect nations for good or bad.
 
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Your understanding of international affairs must be far better than mine.

Who decides which countries to aid,
and which to boycott? Whether we
are Israel's ally or enemy? Whether to
honor the Constitution or continue the
path to socialism?
Those we vote into office.

We get the government we deserve, and
it falls at the feet of God's people, not
those still in rebellion against him.
 
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