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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
Christianity has it gotten more better or corrupted
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pray...and perhaps BE the difference we long to see...to make a difference, we must BE the difference. if God works through His people, then doesn't it stand to reason that we have an important job to do? prayer is amazing AND works but prayer And action, well...openup4christ said:
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white dove said:
Lord, change the world....starting with me. I agree, prayer and action together, so prayer can guide our actions and our actions can help answer our prayers, with God's help.
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You'll be relieved to know then, that even at the "most liberal church in Sheffield", which has invited Spong, Crossan and Borg to give conferences in recent years, this was never the case.openup4christ said:
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I know of evangelical churches where the sermons are only loosely based on Scripture.
"Liberal" is a vague term that means different things to different people. A liberal interpretation of the Bible is the opposite of a lieteralist one. Liberals, in this sense of the word, think that as the Bible was not written in our own language, we need to understand that some words can be translated more than one way, so we need to be aware of other possibilities in case the translator didn't choose the best meaning. We also need to understand the way those who wrote the books of the Bible thought and what their cultural customs were to help us realise what the text meant at the time it was written. We also need to be aware of the differences between poetry and law or direct speech. we need to understand that ancient people had a different understanding about the concept of a fact.
Seeing the Bible in this way does not mean that liberals don't think it is very important.
For myself I take a lively interest in matters of trade justice as I am aware of the many verses in the Bible where God tells of his desire that we treat people fairly and pay people a just wage for their efforts. I do my best to by fairly traded goods and to avoid those that are produced with extreme exploitation of the workers who produce them. I take Jesus' warning that he will not acknowledge those who ignore the hungry and the naked and the prisoner seriously.
Karin
"Liberal" is a vague term that means different things to different people. A liberal interpretation of the Bible is the opposite of a lieteralist one. Liberals, in this sense of the word, think that as the Bible was not written in our own language, we need to understand that some words can be translated more than one way, so we need to be aware of other possibilities in case the translator didn't choose the best meaning. We also need to understand the way those who wrote the books of the Bible thought and what their cultural customs were to help us realise what the text meant at the time it was written. We also need to be aware of the differences between poetry and law or direct speech. we need to understand that ancient people had a different understanding about the concept of a fact.
Seeing the Bible in this way does not mean that liberals don't think it is very important.
For myself I take a lively interest in matters of trade justice as I am aware of the many verses in the Bible where God tells of his desire that we treat people fairly and pay people a just wage for their efforts. I do my best to by fairly traded goods and to avoid those that are produced with extreme exploitation of the workers who produce them. I take Jesus' warning that he will not acknowledge those who ignore the hungry and the naked and the prisoner seriously.
Karin
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