Christianity & Evolution Are Compatible...A Reflection

[Amoeba]

And you have no evidence to back that assessment up until I take the Rorschach Test.

If creationism is a central tenet of Christianity, I would make sure that I would never be a Christian. Fortunately, it's not. It's an extremely narrow, sectarian ideology trying to hijack the church. This is something you need to realize. Your irrational, uncompromising belief in creationism drives any rational soul far far away from the message of Jesus. Luckily I know better...

 

[AV1611VET]

You are so lucky I don't bother to archive your threads.

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[Cabal]

The Bible refers to evolution (at least in its infant stage) as a "philosophy":--- and an "invention":

"Literalism" at its finest.

I've already pwned this one more times than I care to mention.

So nice of you to overlook the fact that Paul is LITERALLY talking about not getting hung up on genealogies, and yet that's what you've based the age of the Earth on and then tie yourself in knots embedding ages left right and centre for some bizarre reason in order to agree with science - which you then tell to go take a hike anyway.

But hey, do anything to justify your anti-science prejudice, right?

 

[gaara4158]

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I lied. I haven't archived any of your stuff. Sue me; at least I don't use the same arguments after I've been trounced with them.

You seem to archive all of your threads, in most of which your arguments are pulverized... and yet you keep bringing them up, as though they gain renewed validity after they've been out of sight for a while. This is why that guy said you were insane; he was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're not a troll.

 

[AV1611VET]

I lied. I haven't archived any of your stuff. Sue me; at least I don't use the same arguments after I've been trounced with them.

You seem to archive all of your threads, in most of which your arguments are pulverized... and yet you keep bringing them up, as though they gain renewed validity after they've been out of sight for a while. This is why that guy said you were insane; he was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're not a troll.

Here's what you're looking for: 51.

Now please show me where I've said it since then.

 

[gaara4158]

Here's what you're looking for: 51.

Now please show me where I've said it since then.

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Because of my Christian Icon?

You're insinuating the same thing here. This is another shining example of your habit of interpreting things literally and legalistically. Like it doesn't count if you word it differently. It's like dealing with a child.

 

[marktheblake]

Hey, you wait till you get called a phoney Christian just because of accepting one theory among many others.

Being called that many times, but only by persons who are not christians, so their opinion counts for nought on such issues.

Anyway, I wasn't involved in the "evolutionism" word debate, I just thought you were asking an honest question, which I thought I'd help to answer

. Sorry, I didnt realise that. Cos it wasnt an honest question either. Considering none of those complainers responded apart from more preaching, there isnt much more than I can do about the e word.

It would help A LOT if they came up with something new to discuss.

You can say that again, it would be nice to hear something i havent heard before, I like to learn new things.

And btw, we did just explain to you something that made us tick, why "evolutionism" is a loaded word, and you just blew it off.

I did blow it off, because as far as I am concerned, it is not a loaded word.

 

[Psudopod]

And btw, we did just explain to you something that made us tick, why "evolutionism" is a loaded word, and you just blew it off.
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I did blow it off, because as far as I am concerned, it is not a loaded word.

If it's not a loaded word, why do we never hear of gravityism or atomism or thermodynamicsism? You might not have meant it in loaded manner, but that doesn't change the fact that it's generally used that way by others.

 

[Cabal]

Being called that many times, but only by persons who are not christians, so their opinion counts for nought on such issues.

Wait till it happens from people who should know better.

I did blow it off, because as far as I am concerned, it is not a loaded word.

I'm sure there are some people who are blissfully unaware that the n-word is a loaded word, does that make it ok to blow off people's explanations to the contrary?

 

[marktheblake]

If it's not a loaded word, why do we never hear of gravityism or atomism or thermodynamicsism?

Because the Forum is about,

Creation & Evolution Forum for the discussion of this important topic. This forum is open to non-believers.

not any of those other things, and as Evolution is not exclusive to a non-beleiver, it is logical to make the distinction in many arguments to something other than between Christian and non-christian.

I'm sure there are some people who are blissfully unaware that the n-word is a loaded word, does that make it ok to blow off people's explanations to the contrary?

If people cant accept my explanation but then they keep on with the accusation, then they get repaid in kind.

 

[Cabal]

Because the Forum is about,

Creation & Evolution Forum for the discussion of this important topic. This forum is open to non-believers.

not any of those other things, and as Evolution is not exclusive to a non-beleiver, it is logical to make the distinction in many arguments to something other than between Christian and non-christian.

Missing the ideology point yet again...and that accusation gets thrown out to ToE proponents no matter what religious beliefs they hold.

If people cant accept my explanation but then they keep on with the accusation, then they get repaid in kind.

Erm, excuse me, I did accept your explanation. I just expect you to be aware that it's an uncommon point of view on the word within this board and at least be aware of it when you post.

As I said, go around throwing the n-word around in a predominantly African-American neighbourhood. If people there object, claim that it's fine because you haven't encountered it as a loaded word. If you survive, come back to me and see if you still hold the same view.

 

[Hespera]

If creationism is a central tenet of Christianity, I would make sure that I would never be a Christian. Fortunately, it's not. It's an extremely narrow, sectarian ideology trying to hijack the church. This is something you need to realize. Your irrational, uncompromising belief in creationism drives any rational soul far far away from the message of Jesus. Luckily I know better...

agrees with the above

 

[Hespera]

By the looks of the last couple of pages - all the evolutionists. Yet they will use all the name calling under the sun - hypocrites.

The sooner you lot realise that both sides are just as one eyed as each other you can get on with understanding what makes each other tick, instead of wasting your playing silly semantics.



Evolution is an idealogy.

See, if i wanted to say it, I would just say it.

"evolutionist" is at best borderline name calling so dont use if if you think any kind of name calling is undesirable

As for evolution is an ideology. Look.....it isnt. Anymore than gravity is.
Its insulting to say that it is, but more insulting to the person who says it.

is it possible you could just take the word of a person who really has no religious concerns in life, one way or the other; or a person who is a good solid christian... neither will agree that it is an ideology.

I know what ideologiy is! Evoution has nothing to do with ideology. ok.. please? There is no point taliing when people make up false assertions and then stick to them.

 

[AV1611VET]

If creationism is a central tenet of Christianity, I would make sure that I would never be a Christian. Fortunately, it's not.

So what's keeping you from being a Christian now --- (if you aren't one already)?

 

[Psudopod]

If it's not a loaded word, why do we never hear of gravityism or atomism or thermodynamicsism?

Because the Forum is about

Creation & Evolution Forum for the discussion of this important topic. This forum is open to non-believers.

not any of those other things, and as Evolution is not exclusive to a non-beleiver, it is logical to make the distinction in many arguments to something other than between Christian and non-christian.

And no other scientific theories ever get discussed alongside evolution, as a comparison for example? It happens lots of times, but yet I’ve never heard of any other theory being given an –ism suffix.

I’m not sure what you mean by “it is logical to make the distinction in many arguments to something other than between Christian and non-christian.” How is adding a superfluous –ism suffix making the distinction between something Christian and non Christian? (You are of course right that evolution is not exclusive to non believers.)

 

[Hespera]

Being called that many times, but only by persons who are not christians, so their opinion counts for nought on such issues.

. , there isnt much more than I can do about the e word.

I did blow it off, because as far as I am concerned, it is not a loaded word.

you are not an evolutionist so your opinion counts for nothing on evolution then?

Actually there is lots you can do about your use of the word. dont use it.

One time i found the word "ChinK" written on my door. Maybe the person who wrote it would say, oh far as i am concerned its not a loaded word.

If you continue to use it after you have been told its loaded then its deliberate and will be taken that way.

ok? really the tone of discussion is hard enough to keep under control as it is.

 

[marktheblake]

Erm, excuse me, I did accept your explanation.

I know, we have dealt with that. Next time i reply to someone else, and seem to refer to everyone, you may consider yourself excluded from that.

I just expect you to be aware that it's an uncommon point of view on the word within this board and at least be aware of it when you post.

its only evolutionists that think the word is loaded. Do they think that Creationist is loaded as well? I don't care.

As I said, go around throwing the n-word around in a predominantly African-American neighbourhood.

aha, i was gunna ask what the n-word cos i had no idea, so I ignored the comment. Hardly a reasonable comparison, the dictionary clearly tells you it is an offensive word.

And considering that the evolutionists claim that evolution is not a religion then the word can hardly be considered offensive or discriminatory.

 

[AV1611VET]

Evolution --- Evolutionist --- Evolutionism

Creation --- Creationist --- Creationism

Can't we at least accept these terms as 'working definitions' so as to simplify a conversation between conversationists?

 

[marktheblake]

you are not an evolutionist so your opinion counts for nothing on evolution then?

You are right, unless we are really discussing whether Christianity and Evolution is compatible.

Actually there is lots you can do about your use of the word. dont use it.

But you just used the word evolutionist to describe someone that believes in evolution

I'll take that as gospel then.

Can't we at least accept these terms as 'working definitions' so as to simplify a conversation between conversationists?

That is too rational.

hang on a minute, wont conversationist upset some people like my wife that talk too much?

 

[random325nicaea]

Evolution --- Evolutionist --- Evolutionism

Creation --- Creationist --- Creationism

Can't we at least accept these terms as 'working definitions' so as to simplify a conversation between conversationists?

gravity---gravitist---gravatism
cell---cellist----cellism
quantum physics-----quantum physicist-----quantum physicism

do you get the point now?