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If evolution is one of the strongest explanatory theories in any academic field, I mean, the evidence is simply overwhelming, how do Christians reconcile this?
What about the Biblical scholars that generally dismiss Genesis as a "historical" representation... but rather "myth" (however you want to define that)?
I understand I'm courting "controversy" here, but I'd genuinely like to hear this, supposedly, untouchable theological answer.
If evolution is one of the strongest explanatory theories in any academic field, I mean, the evidence is simply overwhelming, how do Christians reconcile this?
What about the Biblical scholars that generally dismiss Genesis as a "historical" representation... but rather "myth" (however you want to define that)?
I understand I'm courting "controversy" here, but I'd genuinely like to hear this, supposedly, untouchable theological answer.
A better question to ask is:
What evidence can disapprove evolution?
1. No real Transitional Fossils found. Only loose connections made.
2. No new genetic information forming or being added to the species.
3. Evolutionary Scientists repeatedly written that they have no real evidence.
4. Insects lose genetic code when adapting to pesticides (They don't gain any DNA).
5. We don't see observable proof of one species turning into another species.
6. Fossil records have been misrepresented in museums just to support Evolution.
7. Life has never been observed to come from non-life.
8. Examine a bird's feather and a reptile scale under a microscope. They are nothing like each other at all. Yet the Reptile was supposed to have formed into a bird at some point. Where are the transitional feather like scales? There isn't even one of these babies preserved in mud somewhere? I mean, a feather and a scale is about as similar to a chocolate bar would be to a silver bullet.
As for Having a Relationship with the Lord and His Holy Word: Well, the Bible is tied to scientific facts. You can't ignore these types of facts, unless you want to ignore science. In fact, the Bible is supported in many different categories of evidences.
In fact, the Bible is not a mere book as many will have you believe. The Bible was God breathed and is perfect and without error. Veritably, the Bible is one of the top most translated and best selling books in the world. It is also the #1 historical book within history that has remained the most accurate and true to it's original more than any other historical book.
Here are a couple of my favorite evidences that back up God's Word.
The Discovery of Mount Sinai, the Cleft Rock, and the Crossing Path of the Red Sea:
In the Scriptures we learn that the Lord literally burned the top of Mt. Sinai (Exodus 19) (Deuteronomy 5). In fact, today, people have witnessed the burned top of Mt. Sinai. A Mountain that is now called "Jabal al Lawz" in Saudi Arabia. A mountain that you can see that is burned at the top.
Exodus 19:18
"And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the Lord descended upon it in fire: and smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly."
There is even evidence that confirms the Red Sea crossing, too. A great video to check out these evidences (That is also available on DVD if you do not like the video quality) can be watched here:
Just Click on Play Button at the following YouTube Video.
In addition, I would also recommend watching the following video here, as well. This video reveals more of the discoveries made at Mt. Sinai. Such as Elijah's cave, certain artifacts, and the split rock.
Psalms 105:41
"He opened the rock, and waters gushed out; they ran in the dry places like a river."
Again, if you don't like the resolution of the video at YouTube, I do believe the DVD is still available on Amazon or other select sites.
We All Come From Adam and Eve:
There are also Biblical Evidences in Genetics, too. For...
In fact, to prove genetically outwardly that all races come from Adam and Eve, here are two photos that show black couples giving birth to black and white twins.
Anyways, a good (but lengthy) Christian article to read on this topic would be here:
Table of Nations by Tim Osterholm.
The Perfect Life Condtions of the Earth:
(That is fine tuned for life):
Today there are more than two hundred known parameters required for a planet to support life; For every one of these parameters must be met exactly, or there would be no life on Earth
Here are just 20 of them.
1. Earth is at the perfect distance from the sun.
(Too close and we burn up; Too far away and we would freeze).
2. Earth is in a habitable zone of galaxy where there is no radiation and wandering planetoids.
3. Earth's orbit of the sun does not take us too close to the sun.
4. Earth has the right amount of magnetic fields generated from it's core to protect us from harmful rays of the sun.
5. Earth has the right kind of star (i.e. the sun) which gives off the right amount of output that is not too strong (that would burn us up).
6. Earth is spinning at a rate that makes life possible.
7. Earth is tilted at the right axis for life.
8. Earth's moon as at the right size and distance so as to provide the perfect kind of tides for life.
9. Earth's two gas giants (i.e. Jupiter and Saturn) prevent wandering astroids from hitting the Earth.
10. Earth has the right amount of oxygen or air for life to thrive.
11. Earth has the right kind of gravity for life to thrive.
12. Earth has enough useable water so as to sustain life.
13. Earth has enough minerals, plant, and animal life so as to provide for humans.
14. Earth's atmosphere is at just the right level to protect life.
15. Earth's tectonic processes which recycle the crust are just right so as to maintain life on our planet by recycling minerals and nutrients that we need.
16. Earth's right amount of gases in the atmosphere making life suitable.
17. Earth has the right amount of carbon dioxide.
18. Earth is just the right size.
19. Earth has right amount of Nitogen that makes life possible.
20. Earth is at the right age to support life.
Taking all these factors into account, it seem like a miracle that we are even here at all. For if even one of the above variables did not exist, then we would not exist.
The Beauty of Creation:
(That leaves us in awe and wonder):
In addition, besides the Earth's existence being miracle in and of itself, then there is the beauty that we can observe with things here on this planet Earth with our five senses, too.
- For the beauty of a sunset or a mountain side or the ocean can leave you in awe just by gazing upon them with your own two eyes.
- Then there is the beauty of taking in the fragrance of a rose that makes you think romantically to taking in the fragance of a handful of coffee beans that refreshes you.
- There is the beauty in listening to a song with your ears and how it can move your soul and emotions to great lengths.
- There is the beauty of feeling warm clean water cleanse you of dirt to the beauty of feeling the touch of the one you love.
- There is the beauty in the taste of a bunch of sweet strawberries to the taste of freshly salted cooked potatoes.
Why are there so many beautiful things within the universe?
There are many beautiful animals, trees, flowers, rivers, mountains, clouds, and stars in the heavens. Many pleasureable foods, smells, tastes, emotions, sounds, and things to touch. It seems that things are not just a random accident. It appears that there are many good and wonderful things that an Intelligent Creator has designed specifically for us so as to make us happy and to take joy in.
The Sea Worthiness of the Ark:
Another good piece of evidence that backs up God's Word is the Sea Worthiness of the Ark.
Here is a quote from a good article that talks about that.
"Noah’s Ark was the focus of a major 1993 scientific study headed by Dr. Seon Hong at the world-class ship research center KRISO, based in Daejeon, South Korea. Dr. Hong’s team compared twelve hulls of different proportions to discover which design was most practical. No hull shape was found to significantly outperform the 4,300-year-old biblical design. In fact, the Ark’s careful balance is easily lost if the proportions are modified, rendering the vessel either unstable, prone to fracture, or dangerously uncomfortable.
The research team found that the proportions of Noah’s Ark carefully balanced the conflicting demands of stability (resistance to capsizing), comfort (“seakeeping”), and strength. In fact, the Ark has the same proportions as a modern cargo ship.
The study also confirmed that the Ark could handle waves as high as 100 ft (30 m). Dr. Hong is now director general of the facility and claims “life came from the sea,” obviously not the words of a creationist on a mission to promote the worldwide Flood. Endorsing the seaworthiness of Noah’s Ark obviously did not damage Dr. Hong’s credibility.
Dr. Seon Won Hong was principal research scientist when he headed up the Noah’s Ark investigation. In May 2005 Dr. Hong was appointed director general of MOERI (formerly KRISO). Dr. Hong earned a B.S. degree in naval architecture from Seoul National University and a Ph.D. degree in applied mechanics from the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor."
Noah's Ark is at the maximum size that is currently within man's knowledge to be possible for a wooden sea vessel.
Article Source:
https://answersingenesis.org/noahs-ark/thinking-outside-the-box/
(Please take note that I do not believe everything AIG teaches or does, I am merely in agreement with this particular article here).
Man Was Formed Out of the Dust of the Ground:
In 1982, NASA ames research had made a discovery that the same elements that are within our body are found within the soil.
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
~ (Genesis 2:7)
Now, the chances of Moses (The author of Genesis) making such a lucky guess about a modern day scientific truth is pretty darn amazing to say the least. Granted, Moses might have been able to make one or maybe two lucky guesses or truths as we know them today, but he would not have been able to account for all of the time tested truths in all of the five books he had written in the Bible. For we could have been formed out of gold, silver, rubber trees, castor beans, actinides, or lanthanides, (all of which have different properties than clay (soil). It is also interesting to point out that Christians were criticized for believing in Genesis 2:7 before this discovery was made, too.
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Once you realize Nothing matters but Christ in God, and you in Christ, then things make sense.
last few posts...tl;dr
If you're going to reference Answers in Genesis and other pseudo-scholarly baloney, then I can't take you seriously.
No wonder it's called "the dumbing down of America"
I’m hearing a lot of “objections” here—the erection of a straw man, and embodied by a poor cultural understanding of evolution. Gosh. I even broke a smile at the quote mining of Stephen Hawkins.
The Whack-a-Mole is the perfect conceptual tool to express what evangelical “apologetics” often looks like today. It’d be wasteful to respond to most of these posts, as all the “arguments” against evolution have been soundly answered. You just need to look them up.
“It’s just a theory”, just won’t stay down.
The so-called “Biblical” Christians aren’t interested in evidence. So why bother asking for it? Its kind of silliness, isn’t it? If Christians are starting with the conclusions, the non-negotiable dogmas, asking the questions their culture is telling them to ask, there is little point.
I am, however, waiting for that vigorous theological position (from the evangelical/fundamentalist) that drives a conclusion that evolution is incompatible with Christianity. There are a lot more challenges, critical questions, to Christianity than the "slippery slope" argument, I suspect some people here have never bothered to challenge those easy assumption... comfortable and familiar ways of thinking.
The way I see it, there's a strong argument to be made that inerrancy is unfaithful to the texts.
Evolution remains a theory, not a fact.
Everyone has a choice.
Either believe God's explanation of creation and life issues.
Or don't believe.
It is a choice.
That is why God told us to choose life that we and our seed may live.
Someone in another thread stated this about the video when I posted it there:A lot of problems with the ToE are described in this:
God Bless!
I am, however, waiting for that vigorous theological position (from the evangelical/fundamentalist) that drives a conclusion that evolution is incompatible with Christianity. There are a lot more challenges, critical questions, to Christianity than the "slippery slope" argument, I suspect some people here have never bothered to challenge those easy assumption... comfortable and familiar ways of thinking.
The way I see it, there's a strong argument to be made that inerrancy is unfaithful to the texts.
Dear Indent:
I used to be an atheist, so I know how you feel. You believe you are correct. But yet it bothers you that others believe in God. However, ask yourself, if God was not real, then why I am bothered by others believing in God? For does it bother you that people today believe in a flat Earth?
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If evolution is one of the strongest explanatory theories in any academic field, I mean, the evidence is simply overwhelming, how do Christians reconcile this?
What about the Biblical scholars that generally dismiss Genesis as a "historical" representation... but rather "myth" (however you want to define that)?
I understand I'm courting "controversy" here, but I'd genuinely like to hear this, supposedly, untouchable theological answer.
I could be wrong, but it seems like you may be projecting. Indent didn't say it bothers him that others believe in God, nor did he say that God doesn't exist. I think he's simply asking for an explanation and valid argument as to how Christianity and evolution can be reconciled. I personally haven't heard much of a decent explanation yet.
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