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This leads to a cycle of striving, failing and falling short which is best illustrated by the hamster’s wheel. Round and round he turns towards his mission. After a few iterations he forgets what he’s chasing. The habit is ingrained.
You are going to have to choose between "loving God" and "being an incel."I get the feeling that it's over and just a matter of time before it becomes futile for the majority of the population.
I think "being an incel" sounds like an accusation. I don't identify with so-called incels and I don't think they have that great of an attitude either. Too bitter and depressed they are.You are going to have to choose between "loving God" and "being an incel."
"If someone says, 'I love God,' and hates his [sister], he is a liar;
for he who does not love his [sister] whom he has seen,
how can he love God whom he has not seen?" 1 John 4:20 NKJV
As an "agnostic" or bad/weak Christian, I known that Christianity warns others about sensual things like eating, sex, attractiveness, a lot of this stuff. But, do you think God meant to create the system we see as if those are always inherently evil or sinful?
Jesus also even said in Matthew 22:30 (there was also another iteration elsewhere in the bible) that "they will neither marry, nor be given in marriage..." so it seems that Jesus said we won't be married or have a similar kind of intimacy with the opposite sex of any kind at all in Heaven. That is one thing that made me feel even repulsed and one part that "helped" my faith slowly wither until the point today.
I don't feel like I can completely accept Jesus or God anymore. I used to be more spiritual or at least tried to be when I was younger, I thought that I was going to be able to have a partner, but the narrative about not being with someone who I can look at with physical passion, be naked with, and have an exclusive intimacy that I could've missed seeing on earth (seems that there is a two-tiered system in place) have made me disillusioned. I also became more disillusioned because I was born at the time where my generation will be the one alive to see everything become really awful and then it would just end.
That is kind of where it stems from, why do you believe it is fair too? That other people, Christian and non-Christian alike got to acquire something that seems to be denied to a significant group of people who desire it but are denied it, either because God said no or the world makes it hard or difficult in some way?
What about when God said we will see whatever we would desire? Is desiring a partner of the opposite sex to be with somehow unclean to God or has become unclean in his eyes? At least a lot of Christians seem to have a subconscious belief thinking so.
I want to close here for now.
My mistake. This post and so many of your others sound so self-defeating in the relationship department; the typical presentation of an incel. And I suspect it is why you refuse to completely surrender to Jesus, because He hasn't met you on your terms.I don't identify with so-called incels and I don't think they have that great of an attitude either.
The message in Judaism / Old Testament is pro-marriage, pro-family, and pro-procreation. Genesis says "it is not good for man to be alone" and "go forth and multiply, be fruitful and replenish the earth", whilst exodus says "honour your father and your mother".
The message in Christianity / New Testament is very different. Paul says that celibacy is superior to marriage, and Christ says we must hate our parents to the point of not even bothering to bury them when they die.
Two VERY different religions.
Ephesians 6:1-3
Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. Honor your father and mother (which is the first commandment with a promise), so that it may be well with you, and that you may live long on the earth.
You may want to read the New testament again.
Read it yourself: Luke 14:26
"If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple"
If Jesus actually meant for you or anyone to indiscriminately hate his parents would we have verses saying honour them?
In some cases, people have to give up their family or friends to follow Jesus and this is what he is talking about. For example, the parents are following another religion and they say they will disown their adult child if they become a follower of Jesus, in that case they would have to leave their family in order to follow.
“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
If you are part of a strong Christian family this won't apply, but Jesus is saying he is bringing division because not all families will follow, it will cause fights in some families.
If Jesus meant for you to honour your parents why would he say you have to hate them?
If Jesus taught everyone to randomly hate their parents for no reason this goes against his own teaching of honouring them.
Matthew 10:34-36 suggests otherwise...
As I said and tried to explain, yes it can be, if your household is against Jesus. In some countries, Christians are killed. This is not how it is in the west.
Why don't you go and ask your pastor and see if he doesn't agree with me. The main commandments we have are to
1) love God with our whole heart and soul and
2) Love others as ourselves.
If you think God is telling you to go and act hatefully towards your mother and disrespect her, so help you. I will leave this here as you obviously don't wish to learn.
One passage says you must hate your family. Another says your family will (WILL, not "may possibly") be your enemy. A third says marriage is inferior to celibacy. Yet another says leave your dead relatives. And one more says give no thought to the future.
That (in addition to all the writing on martydom etc), to me, is saying disregard the earthly life with extreme prejudice. Can you truly not see that?
I already explained what it means. You have to take the other verses into consideration and this goes for all scripture that you read.
So you tell me what you think God is asking of you when he says to honour your father and mother?
Two, tell me why I should hate my devote Christian father?
Well, no man is on earth is to be called father, and Catholics would say that Mary is the new Eve and so the new mother; meaning that the ones to be honoured may not be what you think.
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