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<blockquote data-quote="zephcom" data-source="post: 71778112" data-attributes="member: 400000"><p>You are free to think something is ridiculous if you choose. However the reality is that people's perception of a product or religion is largely based on what they hear and see. But let me make myself really clear on one issue, it is Christianity that I am against. It is NOT Christians I'm against. Far too many people seem unable to grasp that Christianity is a religion and is not them personally.</p><p></p><p>Stealing from one group of people in favor of another group?? I've never advocated stealing from anyone. Taxing a population for money to use for the benefit of all is not stealing. And it is disingenuous to suggest that it is. </p><p></p><p>Remember, it was Jesus who said, "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked."</p><p></p><p>I never suggested that anyone deprive police from their right to due process. If anyone is being denied their right to due process it is the people law enforcement execute on the streets of America. I will suggest that laws which are designed to protect police officers from any prosecution should be modified so that officers are no longer allowed simply recited the phrase, "I was scared for my life" and be excused from even the most obvious case of murder. We have made turned our police into an occupying military force rather than a security force designed to protect us from criminals. Despite your attempts to misrepresent my position, I am not anti-law enforcement. I am in favor of responsible law enforcement.</p><p></p><p>And again you resort to inflammatory rhetoric to misrepresent my point with your 'dismembering unborn babies' comment. The abortion issue is not something that justifies denying women the right to control their own health care. It is, however, an issue which American politicians and the Christian religion likes to use to inflame people to support their causes. </p><p></p><p>The reality is that taking away a woman's control over their health issues will not stop abortion. It will make more 'criminals' to put into our already over crowded prison, but it will do nothing at all to stop abortion. It never has in the past and never will in the future.</p><p></p><p>The reality is that the American culture creates the situation where women are pressured into making the decision to abort a pregnancy. And until those culture issues are changed abortions will continue either legally or illegally. When women can be assured they will be able earn a salary as high as men so they can support a family and when women who choose to not have an abortion are viewed by the males in this culture as desirable for marriage instead of viewed as [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]s, the abortion rate will go down. And inflammatory rhetoric will not change that reality. </p><p></p><p>It is also Biblical that Jesus said that He fulfilled the Law and that His Two Commandments replaced the Law. It is the fault of Christianity that so many Christians think they are supposed to be both Jews and Christians depending on what suits their fancy. </p><p></p><p>In Matthew 5, Jesus said this, "17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."</p><p></p><p>In Matthew 22, right after Jesus gave His Two Commandments He said this, "40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”</p><p></p><p>When one practices His two commandments, they are, according to Jesus, complying with both the Law and the Prophets. Christianity will try to tell you that isn't true but the Bible really does say exactly that. </p><p></p><p>For a Follower of Jesus, the entire 'Old Testament' is nothing more than historical information. Nothing in it has any binding control over a Follower. The binding control is Jesus' Two Commandments because EVERYTHING in the Law and Prophets hang from those two commandments. </p><p></p><p>Christianity should know that because the Bible IS their religious tome. The religion chooses not to teach that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zephcom, post: 71778112, member: 400000"] You are free to think something is ridiculous if you choose. However the reality is that people's perception of a product or religion is largely based on what they hear and see. But let me make myself really clear on one issue, it is Christianity that I am against. It is NOT Christians I'm against. Far too many people seem unable to grasp that Christianity is a religion and is not them personally. Stealing from one group of people in favor of another group?? I've never advocated stealing from anyone. Taxing a population for money to use for the benefit of all is not stealing. And it is disingenuous to suggest that it is. Remember, it was Jesus who said, "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked." I never suggested that anyone deprive police from their right to due process. If anyone is being denied their right to due process it is the people law enforcement execute on the streets of America. I will suggest that laws which are designed to protect police officers from any prosecution should be modified so that officers are no longer allowed simply recited the phrase, "I was scared for my life" and be excused from even the most obvious case of murder. We have made turned our police into an occupying military force rather than a security force designed to protect us from criminals. Despite your attempts to misrepresent my position, I am not anti-law enforcement. I am in favor of responsible law enforcement. And again you resort to inflammatory rhetoric to misrepresent my point with your 'dismembering unborn babies' comment. The abortion issue is not something that justifies denying women the right to control their own health care. It is, however, an issue which American politicians and the Christian religion likes to use to inflame people to support their causes. The reality is that taking away a woman's control over their health issues will not stop abortion. It will make more 'criminals' to put into our already over crowded prison, but it will do nothing at all to stop abortion. It never has in the past and never will in the future. The reality is that the American culture creates the situation where women are pressured into making the decision to abort a pregnancy. And until those culture issues are changed abortions will continue either legally or illegally. When women can be assured they will be able earn a salary as high as men so they can support a family and when women who choose to not have an abortion are viewed by the males in this culture as desirable for marriage instead of viewed as [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]s, the abortion rate will go down. And inflammatory rhetoric will not change that reality. It is also Biblical that Jesus said that He fulfilled the Law and that His Two Commandments replaced the Law. It is the fault of Christianity that so many Christians think they are supposed to be both Jews and Christians depending on what suits their fancy. In Matthew 5, Jesus said this, "17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." In Matthew 22, right after Jesus gave His Two Commandments He said this, "40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” When one practices His two commandments, they are, according to Jesus, complying with both the Law and the Prophets. Christianity will try to tell you that isn't true but the Bible really does say exactly that. For a Follower of Jesus, the entire 'Old Testament' is nothing more than historical information. Nothing in it has any binding control over a Follower. The binding control is Jesus' Two Commandments because EVERYTHING in the Law and Prophets hang from those two commandments. Christianity should know that because the Bible IS their religious tome. The religion chooses not to teach that. [/QUOTE]
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