For teaching the false doctrine of christians giving to the church (wich is legaly a fraud) there is a long collection of texts that are missused. Can you share some of those texts that get twosted and corrupted for getting brothers money?
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TitheS should be given out of a revelation of how much God loves you! When you know who your provider is, giving tithes is easy! If you do not want to tithe, do not tithe! God will not love you any more or any less!
This verse is used a lot to scare church goers in to giving tithes:
Mal 3:8-10 AMP Will a man rob or defraud God? Yet you rob and defraud Me. But you say, In what way do we rob or defraud You? [You have withheld your] tithes and offerings. You are cursed with the curse, for you are robbing Me, even this whole nation. [Lev. 26:14-17.] Bring all the tithes (the whole tenth of your income) into the storehouse, that there may be food in My house, and prove Me now by it, says the Lord of hosts, if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. [Mal. 2:2.]
Of course, those who want to force you to tithe, always conveniently forget to show you this verse:
Gal 3:13 AMP Christ purchased our freedom [redeeming us] from the curse (doom) of the Law [and its condemnation] by [Himself] becoming a curse for us, for it is written [in the Scriptures], Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree (is crucified); [Deut. 21:23.]
God will not curse you with a curse if you do not tithe. Tithing is good and even Abraham who lived 400+ years before the law of Moses gave tithes!
Gen 14:18-20 AMP Melchizedek king of Salem [later called Jerusalem] brought out bread and wine [for their nourishment]; he was the priest of God Most High, And he blessed him and said, Blessed (favored with blessings, made blissful, joyful) be Abram by God Most High, Possessor and Maker of heaven and earth, And blessed, praised, and glorified be God Most High, Who has given your foes into your hand! And [Abram] gave him a tenth of all [he had taken]. [Heb. 7:1-10.]
Many still believe that to get Christians to do good stuff, you have to threaten them and scare them! Of course that only works on ignorant Christians! Your heavenly Father loves cheerful givers! If you are tithing because you are afraid God will curse you, I suggest you stop tithing! Its just a waste of time. Tithe for the right reason.
This verse is used a lot to scare church goers in to giving tithes:
Mal 3:8-10 AMP Will a man rob or defraud God? Yet you rob and defraud Me. But you say, In what way do we rob or defraud You? [You have withheld your] tithes and offerings. You are cursed with the curse, for you are robbing Me, even this whole nation. [Lev. 26:14-17.] Bring all the tithes (the whole tenth of your income) into the storehouse, that there may be food in My house, and prove Me now by it, says the Lord of hosts, if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. [Mal. 2:2.]
Of course, those who want to force you to tithe, always conveniently forget to show you this verse:
Gal 3:13 AMP Christ purchased our freedom [redeeming us] from the curse (doom) of the Law [and its condemnation] by [Himself] becoming a curse for us, for it is written [in the Scriptures], Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree (is crucified); [Deut. 21:23.]
God will not curse you with a curse if you do not tithe. Tithing is good and even Abraham who lived 400+ years before the law of Moses gave tithes!
Gen 14:18-20 AMP Melchizedek king of Salem [later called Jerusalem] brought out bread and wine [for their nourishment]; he was the priest of God Most High, And he blessed him and said, Blessed (favored with blessings, made blissful, joyful) be Abram by God Most High, Possessor and Maker of heaven and earth, And blessed, praised, and glorified be God Most High, Who has given your foes into your hand! And [Abram] gave him a tenth of all [he had taken]. [Heb. 7:1-10.]
Many still believe that to get Christians to do good stuff, you have to threaten them and scare them! Of course that only works on ignorant Christians! Your heavenly Father loves cheerful givers! If you are tithing because you are afraid God will curse you, I suggest you stop tithing! Its just a waste of time. Tithe for the right reason.
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Abraham didnt gave tithe. He did tithe one sole time in his entire life. And he gave the 10% of what was not his and he was not intended to keep. After tithing, Abraham ended with the same amout as before.
No one ancestor of Abraham did ever tithe, and no one of his descendants did ever tithe, as him did never tithe as well (except for a single and alone accation)
WARNING: Those tithing are cursed.
No one ancestor of Abraham did ever tithe, and no one of his descendants did ever tithe, as him did never tithe as well (except for a single and alone accation)
WARNING: Those tithing are cursed.
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The tithe comes in many forms, not limited to, and connected with our perception, which is tainted by labor, with it's reward of merchandise (our perception of the law of life, when we are less than one is sin and eath to us).
One way to view it ... Israel was God's tithe and the gentiles ... his increase.
It is we who must bring the tithe into our store house, this tithe in this form is the law of life, which God pours out the blessing our soul cannot contain.
If the word of God has not come to you in this, without measure, then you have not understood yet what truth the tithe is, and there is no meat in your house (so to speak).
I know you wanted scripture, but anything we deem is right, we use things without us to justify.
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Matthew 23:23--"You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things."
I felt God calling me to bless needy Jews years ago and started sending my tithes to the IFCJ. Aside from God's promise to bless those who bless Israel (Genesis 12:3), it goes without saying that the poor need the money much more than televangelists like Joyce Meyer do. I can honestly say that God has blessed my finances in a big way as a result.
I felt God calling me to bless needy Jews years ago and started sending my tithes to the IFCJ. Aside from God's promise to bless those who bless Israel (Genesis 12:3), it goes without saying that the poor need the money much more than televangelists like Joyce Meyer do. I can honestly say that God has blessed my finances in a big way as a result.
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Sorry for me being out for few days.
Now I have renwed all my spiritual energy and are raedy to demostrate out of any doubt that the prectice of the christian tithe is thw worst proble the todays church has. I will - with the help of the Holy Spirit - show out that the practice of thithe is the mother of the most of the problems for the christian, the pastor, the congragation and the Church of Christ.
Blessing for all of you
This is the perfct example of how deep into the sin have the Church fall for seeking money, money and money. Matthew 23: actually say that we sahll not tithe at all; but that "christian" editor has change the Word of God for desieving brother and make them believe that Jesus is telling us to tithe.
What better example for a fraud?
Now I have renwed all my spiritual energy and are raedy to demostrate out of any doubt that the prectice of the christian tithe is thw worst proble the todays church has. I will - with the help of the Holy Spirit - show out that the practice of thithe is the mother of the most of the problems for the christian, the pastor, the congragation and the Church of Christ.
Blessing for all of you
This is the perfct example of how deep into the sin have the Church fall for seeking money, money and money. Matthew 23: actually say that we sahll not tithe at all; but that "christian" editor has change the Word of God for desieving brother and make them believe that Jesus is telling us to tithe.
What better example for a fraud?
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