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Christian rock is a Blessing or Blasphemy

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Hi there frens,im too a big fan of christian rock and one of my fren sent me a site of "christian rock is a blessing or blasphemy".it tells about that christian rock doesnt leads to any blessings instead guides them to secular rock.but i can"t concedes this!
what do u think bout this?
 

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I am not quite sure of what exactly your asking regarding the site, but if it is talking about people listening to Christian rock turning from Christian music to secular music I can claim that it is pure bologna, it had the oposite effect on me the more I listened to the more I wanted and less I listened to the secular stuff. If it is about groups going mainstream they tend to do so inorder to reach those who might otherwise listen to the secular music that is not healthy to be listening to. The ones who tend to do this however are some of your newer groups like POD, LifeHouse, SwitchFoot, MxPx, Staci Orico; There are still Christian rock bands that have been around for a while that don't plan to go mainstream but if they do it is because of some sort of "fluke" like what happened with Mercy Me, one mainstream station played "I Can Only Imagine" by acident and their popularity among those listening to mainstream radio escalated. Hope this helped some.
 
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To call any music blasphemy is ridiculous. Music is a gift from God, and the same notes and instruments are being played by worship leaders and heavy metal bands.

Hey! I just had a great idea! How about we just all listen to music and enjoy it for what it is?
 
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If you consider bands like Creed and other similar bands, I do not see a problem with Christian Rock. They talk about how God loves them and they worhip Him. The beat of the music shouldn't take away from the message.
A hymn is a soft smooth classical rhythm... as is jazz, which is generally secular and sometimes vulgar. That doesn't make a hymn bad, now does it?
There are probably those bands who label themselves as Christian, but do not sing Christian music. Like i may be a Christian who has a band that sings about evil people. NOT THE MESSAGE I WOULD CHOOSE TO LISTEN TO!!
I think it's all in the lyrics and the song, not the rhythm or instruments.
 
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Christian rock is a blessing. As long as it's glorifying Jesus, I don't see how it can be bad. Hymns, rap, rock, whatever. Why should God care how it sounds, as long as you're singing it to Him from your heart? Also, do you think that teenagers are going to listen to hymns? NO WAY! Christian rock is just another way to reach out to others, who wouldn't listen to hymns or gospel music. I personally, don't think it would be right to limit Christian music like that. :)

I understand, on the other hand, that there ARE some who claim they're "Christian rock band" who weren't even true Christians in the first place. But there are also many, many Christian rock bands out there who are all for God :thumbsup:, who keep their focus on God, and want to do nothing but praise him. :clap:
 
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RadG said:
I think I found the site you were refering to http://www.av1611.org/crock.html but I also found this site that picks apart this atack on Christian Rock here it is http://users.erols.com/rmerik/CROCKROX.HTM the guy who did this page also has this page http://users.erols.com/rmerik/cra.htm

This I hope will help some.

i liked the guys replies to the av1611.org sites articles. really showed, to anyone who couldnt see straight through it, how incredibly flawed tonnes of their arguments were.

i do find it ridiuclous how some people think that rock music is itself evil. surely for something to be evil it needs a soul and a style of music doesnt have that. sure it can be used to an evil end but the music is not evil. it's the lyrics that are important. good, genuine, christian rock will almost always have God glorifing lyrics which is a great thing (like the guy quoted at the end of one of the articles : Psalm 150). secular rock will not have that but even that doesnt make it evil (admittedly bands like Slipknot and Deicide dont fall into that category) but their lyrics dont glorify God. THAT'S the difference not the style of music!

P.S - i just had a read of some of Deicide's lyrics and they are, with no exaggeration, sick and twisted! extremely deceived. basically all of the songs that i read had something to do with destroying the bible, saying that the ressurection was a lie or that satan will eventually rule over everything (even God). basically the anti-gosple!

P.P.S - sorry for the minor rant but this type of stuff really irritates me, because of the sheer ignorance of the people writing that stuff (and because i love rock music, particulary christian rock music!) and the fact they so clearly have their own agenda behind it.
 
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Bonhoffer said:
The devil sometimes mascarades as an angel of light.
How can the devil communicate through chords and drum patterns and bass lines, and a message that is put in Christian book stores right next to Bible study books and whatnot?
 
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steverock said:
i liked the guys replies to the av1611.org sites articles. really showed, to anyone who couldnt see straight through it, how incredibly flawed tonnes of their arguments were.
I got interested because in another thread somewhere around here I saw some exchange in beliefs between others and someone with the name av1611 I believe. Well his site seems to do nothing but put down anything that is not KJV or old time Hymns. The thread dealt with whether speaking in tounges applies today (non-denominational forum). I don't know where this guy gets some of his information from (half done job at that) but some of it just seems to be out there. I am not going to say that all my opinions are God given but he seems to think that any viewpoint other than his is Satan inspired (but his could never be) this comes from a guy who thinks anyone with spiritual gifts are being used as tools of the Devil because spiritual gifts are not for us, if he doesn't have the gift of discernment then how can he evaluate Christian Music, Bible Translations, etc. and claim that they are not God inspired.
 
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while it IS true that Satan uses scripture and masquerades as something good, how do we discern between what is truly good and what isn't?
Should we question every single new thing as being part of Satan's work?
My feeling is this - it goes for secular music, for Rated R movies, for anything that any human being finds to be inappropriate. There is a verse in Romans (don't know which one offhand) that says that if YOU believe it is wrong, then it is wrong, and you shall not participate in those things.
I don't think it says "but if you you think it's good, then it is"!! Just that if you feel that secular music is bad, don't listen to it. If you think Christian rock is evil, then by all means, don't put yourself in earshot of it.
Personally, I can watch a rated R movie (rated R for violence, drugs, whatever) and not want to do those things. I can still separate those things from my life. Granted, most of the movies I watch that include those things view it as BAD, as do I. I don't think I could ever watch a movie that condoned violence.
I will still view those things in a rated R movie as bad, as I will view the plot of the movie as such.... It does not affect me as far as my actions. I try to stay away from graphic movies, but there are some that I have seen.
The same goes for music. I listen to secular music, but it doesn't mean that I am going to go out and have sex with every man I see.
I actually listen to rock music that talks more about love and the reality of life (like about a kid whose dad left him & his family, but he has survived through it all). I'm disgusted by music that is all about sex, violence or anything illegal (drugs, etc)... so does that mean that ALL secular music is bad?
Also, aren't there some hymns that aren't really all that "holy"? Like America the Beautiful is in some hymnals... I don't think that was written to worship God, but we use it, don't we?
Just some food for thought :)
I don't think all secular music is good, nor do I think it all bad. I don't think Christian Rock is bad, as long as it is TRULY christian Rock, and not just some guy perverting the Word of God in His name.

Sometimes it may take a while to differentiate between those who ARE using God's Word and those who are twisting it into something that it was not meant to be - like Satan does.


sorry to have rambled!!
 
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As a general rule (yes, there are exceptions), you will find that all those who are against Christian rock, are KJV onlyist;they will tell you that only the piano, organ, and MAYBE the guitar (NOT electric!) (better not use any drums, either) may be used in a worship service; that nothing but the old hymns may be used in praise. Some will even go as far as to say that NOTHING in contemporary music is God worthy, even something sung as a hymn as Chris Rice's "Untitled Hymn" which does not use anything other than a keyboard and strings (no drums).

This is simply silly to say the least. These same people will sing old hymns that are unscriptural with no second thought at all! Let me say here that if you prefer the old hymns, fine! I love them too! But don't put down the newer worship songs as they, too, can praise our Lord. I have debated in a group before with someone who would not even sing the Gaither song "Because He Lives" because it is NEW!

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Rich48 said:
This is simply silly to say the least. These same people will sing old hymns that are unscriptural with no second thought at all! Let me say here that if you prefer the old hymns, fine! I love them too! But don't put down the newer worship songs as they, too, can praise our Lord. I have debated in a group before with someone who would not even sing the Gaither song "Because He Lives" because it is NEW!

Rich
yep, at one point in time they were ALL new :)
 
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Rich48 said:
This is simply silly to say the least. These same people will sing old hymns that are unscriptural with no second thought at all! Let me say here that if you prefer the old hymns, fine! I love them too! But don't put down the newer worship songs as they, too, can praise our Lord. I have debated in a group before with someone who would not even sing the Gaither song "Because He Lives" because it is NEW!
I guess this means that their Hymnals are those old tattered ones that if you look at wrong will fall apart, because there might be a chance of finding those "unChristian hymns" by the Gaithers.
 
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RadG said:
I guess this means that their Hymnals are those old tattered ones that if you look at wrong will fall apart, because there might be a chance of finding those "unChristian hymns" by the Gaithers.
Well, not necessarily. There are "new" hymnals that the "newest" song is probably "How Great Thou Art." Another thing about those who are anti-new music is that most loath the "screen" approach to lyrics. "If we are not singing from a hymnal, then it can't be praise!"

Rich
 
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