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<blockquote data-quote="kimmyh51" data-source="post: 60590970" data-attributes="member: 282837"><p>No not at all - apologies if I implied that unintentionally. I believe in the bible being the word of god (as given to the various people who wrote the various parts of it). I believe those people wrote about the things they saw and experienced and felt, in their own words - and perhaps with their own personal bias (as we all do) but i do not believe that any part of the bible has been inspired by anyone other than god. </p><p></p><p>I think that the bible is written in a way that allows every individual person to get meaning from it for them specifically. And I wonder if maybe god has allowed it to happen that way for a couple of reasons:</p><p></p><p>1: He loves us all as we are and rejoices in the uniqueness of us all - including that of those who wrote the books of the bible</p><p>2: He - knowing us all - knows that for example you may read a passage in the bible, and in that passage see something that just really for you - is meaningful in terms of being the god you want to know and worship, or it may be that you read a passage and out of it, you find certain words and influences are particularly relevant to your own life, or your own ideas about god, love etc. And as you are reading those words you may think "o m g"(excuse the pun) the way thats written is just so - like someone read my mind. And then you find someone else got a totally different message or answer from that same passage. And maybe neither of you is right or wrong - maybe you are both just reading the passage and gathering from it, the meaning that god placed into it especially for you.</p><p></p><p>Clearly there are a lot of passages in the bible - that you could look at and say 'this totally conflicts another verse'or how can a loving god say/command this. One thing I am also learning is that you need to look at the culture, and people and time the words were written, as often if you do that what the words say, if you heard them spoken at the time and place in history the writer was in, would have a very different meaning to what they might have if you interpreted them literally based on modern times.</p><p></p><p>Anyway - at the end of the day - Im not an expert - and even those who are experts may miss something that has meaning for you - simply for that reason - its there for YOU - and no one else</p><p></p><p>if you arent sure - ask god - or if you dont believe in god - DARE him, to prove/show it to you.... </p><p></p><p>Also if you read something and it seems meaningful or relevant but you are not sure and are thinking óh i just want to think that' then ask god to give you more signs if the meaning you got personally from something - was what he was intending you to understand.</p><p></p><p>at the end of the day, no matter what i say or anyone else says - every single person here has the ability to ask god directly themselves - any question they like. I am confident that anyone who does that - with a geniune and honest desire to know (even if you are genuinely and honestly saying you dont believe in god - but are open to being proven wrong) - will receive an answer.</p><p></p><p>it may not be immediately - took me about 2-3 years of earnest asking, and numerous years before that of occasional 'god are you there' asked at random every so often (not very often)</p><p></p><p></p><p>As for the bible being used to mislead people there are definate references in the bible about this ie rev 22:19. And it can be hard to know who's opinion you should trust - as everyone has an agenda (including us christians - we wanna save ya lol).</p><p></p><p>Which is why - when in doubt - ask god - dont rely on anything you are told - incuding by me if you arent sure - ask god to confirm it for you - or to lead you to the answer or person who has the answer you seek.</p><p></p><p>Seek and you shall find <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Just ask...<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kimmyh51, post: 60590970, member: 282837"] No not at all - apologies if I implied that unintentionally. I believe in the bible being the word of god (as given to the various people who wrote the various parts of it). I believe those people wrote about the things they saw and experienced and felt, in their own words - and perhaps with their own personal bias (as we all do) but i do not believe that any part of the bible has been inspired by anyone other than god. I think that the bible is written in a way that allows every individual person to get meaning from it for them specifically. And I wonder if maybe god has allowed it to happen that way for a couple of reasons: 1: He loves us all as we are and rejoices in the uniqueness of us all - including that of those who wrote the books of the bible 2: He - knowing us all - knows that for example you may read a passage in the bible, and in that passage see something that just really for you - is meaningful in terms of being the god you want to know and worship, or it may be that you read a passage and out of it, you find certain words and influences are particularly relevant to your own life, or your own ideas about god, love etc. And as you are reading those words you may think "o m g"(excuse the pun) the way thats written is just so - like someone read my mind. And then you find someone else got a totally different message or answer from that same passage. And maybe neither of you is right or wrong - maybe you are both just reading the passage and gathering from it, the meaning that god placed into it especially for you. Clearly there are a lot of passages in the bible - that you could look at and say 'this totally conflicts another verse'or how can a loving god say/command this. One thing I am also learning is that you need to look at the culture, and people and time the words were written, as often if you do that what the words say, if you heard them spoken at the time and place in history the writer was in, would have a very different meaning to what they might have if you interpreted them literally based on modern times. Anyway - at the end of the day - Im not an expert - and even those who are experts may miss something that has meaning for you - simply for that reason - its there for YOU - and no one else if you arent sure - ask god - or if you dont believe in god - DARE him, to prove/show it to you.... Also if you read something and it seems meaningful or relevant but you are not sure and are thinking óh i just want to think that' then ask god to give you more signs if the meaning you got personally from something - was what he was intending you to understand. at the end of the day, no matter what i say or anyone else says - every single person here has the ability to ask god directly themselves - any question they like. I am confident that anyone who does that - with a geniune and honest desire to know (even if you are genuinely and honestly saying you dont believe in god - but are open to being proven wrong) - will receive an answer. it may not be immediately - took me about 2-3 years of earnest asking, and numerous years before that of occasional 'god are you there' asked at random every so often (not very often) As for the bible being used to mislead people there are definate references in the bible about this ie rev 22:19. And it can be hard to know who's opinion you should trust - as everyone has an agenda (including us christians - we wanna save ya lol). Which is why - when in doubt - ask god - dont rely on anything you are told - incuding by me if you arent sure - ask god to confirm it for you - or to lead you to the answer or person who has the answer you seek. Seek and you shall find :) Just ask...:) [/QUOTE]
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