Christian figures, symbols targeted amid ongoing protests

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Christian figures and symbols -- including Jesus Christ himself -- have become the target of hate and vandalism as protests continue across the nation.

What initially began as a campaign against Confederate figures after George Floyd's police-related death in May has expanded to activists forcibly tearing down or calling for the toppling of monuments to former U.S. presidents, saints, abolitionists, and other figures.

Christian figures, symbols targeted amid ongoing protests


I want to address the issue of Christianity being associated with white supremacy.


First of all Jesus Christ is Semetic, he is not white and he is not black. Secondly because Jesus Christ is Jewish, white supremacists do not accept him. Instead some racists tried to change Jesus Christ into what they wanted him to be physically, looking like them, speaking like them, not accepting the reality of the situation, which in turn has caused deception and other problems. Thirdly racism is not rooted in Christianity.

In the Old Testament in Numbers 12 Moses siblings spoke out against him because his wife was black (Ethiopian). Unfortunately however in movies about the bible, this reality is not shown at all. God punishes Miriam for speaking out against Moses (God spited on her) and her skin became white as snow, she had leprosy.

Numbers 12

[1] And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.
[2] And they said, Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it.
[3] (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.)
[4] And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out.
[5] And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth.
[6] And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.
[7] My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house.
[8] With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?
[9] And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed.
[10] And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous.
[11] And Aaron said unto Moses, Alas, my lord, I beseech thee, lay not the sin upon us, wherein we have done foolishly, and wherein we have sinned.
[12] Let her not be as one dead, of whom the flesh is half consumed when he cometh out of his mother's womb.
[13] And Moses cried unto the LORD, saying, Heal her now, O God, I beseech thee.
[14] And the LORD said unto Moses, If her father had but spit in her face, should she not be ashamed seven days? let her be shut out from the camp seven days, and after that let her be received in again.
[15] And Miriam was shut out from the camp seven days: and the people journeyed not till Miriam was brought in again.

In an earlier book Leviticus. Leviticus 19 verse 34 explains to the Hebrews that if a stranger, a person of another nation comes to live among you you shall not trouble him, ill treat him. But they should love them as they love their own self, reminding them that they once were slaves in Egypt.

[33] And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
[34] But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
[35] Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment, in meteyard, in weight, or in measure.
[36] Just balances, just weights, a just ephah, and a just hin, shall ye have: I am the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt.
[37] Therefore shall ye observe all my statutes, and all my judgments, and do them: I am the LORD.

In the New Testament, in Acts 8 verses 25-40 an Ethiopian man converted to Christianity, he was not shunned because of his skin color, because salvation through Jesus Christ is opened to people of all nations, of all colors.

[25] And they, when they had testified and preached the word of the Lord, returned to Jerusalem, and preached the gospel in many villages of the Samaritans.
[26] And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.
[27] And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
[28] Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.
[29] Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
[30] And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
[31] And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
[32] The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
[33] In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.
[34] And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
[35] Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
[36] And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
[37] And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
[38] And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
[39] And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
[40] But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.

Galatians 3 verses 26-29 states very clearly that all not some Christians are equal in the sight of God. So a white Christian is not superior to a black Christian and vice versa.

[26] For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
[27] For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
[28] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
[29] And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

So what is the real root of racism, it cannot be Christianity as the bible makes it clear that everyone should be treated equally no matter their skin color, the nation where they are from.

The real root of European racism is rooted in paganism, Nordicism, Norse Mythology .


Nordicism

:the belief in or the doctrine of the superiority of the hypothetical Nordic racial type and its cultural capacities

Nordicism


Nordicism Revisited


Norse Mythology


For example Adolf Hitler was anti-semitic and adhered to Teutonic Mythology (Norse Mythology), Black Sun, for example.


Germanic religion and mythology


Folktale and Ideology in the Third Reich


Black Sun (Occult Symbol)


Norse-Viking Symbols & Meanings




Anders Breivik (The Norway Shooter)


Norse Mythology was also important to Anders Breivik


Anders Behring Breivik Trial: Norse God Thor and Odin Engravings on Killer\'s Guns


By the way Nazism is on the left (National Socialism) and many articles are providing false information that "right wing extremists" are the cause of racial problems.



In the U.S, the racist Klu Klux Klan are anti-semetic and are given titles that exposes their links with paganism such as 'Grand Wizard' or Imperial Wizard, a wizard is a male witch.

Additionally the wearing of robes is also known to take place during pagan rituals, and the gathering of persons together among the trees is also a common pagan ritual, for example the Celtic Druid priests.


Ku Klux Klan


Wizard


Let us pray in the nude and wear hooded robes in our cells, demand pagan prisoners


If you go down into the woods today...

 

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Christian figures, symbols targeted amid ongoing protests


I want to address the issue of Christianity being associated with white supremacy.


First of all Jesus Christ is Semetic, he is not white and he is not black. Secondly because Jesus Christ is Jewish, white supremacists do not accept him. Instead some racists tried to change Jesus Christ into what they wanted him to be physically, looking like them, speaking like them, not accepting the reality of the situation, which in turn has caused deception and other problems. Thirdly racism is not rooted in Christianity.

In the Old Testament in Numbers 12 Moses siblings spoke out against him because his wife was black (Ethiopian). Unfortunately however in movies about the bible, this reality is not shown at all. God punishes Miriam for speaking out against Moses (God spited on her) and her skin became white as snow, she had leprosy.




In an earlier book Leviticus. Leviticus 19 verse 34 explains to the Hebrews that if a stranger, a person of another nation comes to live among you you shall not trouble him, ill treat him. But they should love them as they love their own self, reminding them that they once were slaves in Egypt.





In the New Testament, in Acts 8 verses 25-40 an Ethiopian man converted to Christianity, he was not shunned because of his skin color, because salvation through Jesus Christ is opened to people of all nations, of all colors.





Galatians 3 verses 26-29 states very clearly that all not some Christians are equal in the sight of God. So a white Christian is not superior to a black Christian and vice versa.





So what is the real root of racism, it cannot be Christianity as the bible makes it clear that everyone should be treated equally no matter their skin color, the nation where they are from.

The real root of European racism is rooted in paganism, Nordicism, Norse Mythology .


Nordicism




Nordicism


Nordicism Revisited


Norse Mythology


For example Adolf Hitler was anti-semitic and adhered to Teutonic Mythology (Norse Mythology), Black Sun, for example.


Germanic religion and mythology


Folktale and Ideology in the Third Reich


Black Sun (Occult Symbol)


Norse-Viking Symbols & Meanings




Anders Breivik (The Norway Shooter)


Norse Mythology was also important to Anders Breivik


Anders Behring Breivik Trial: Norse God Thor and Odin Engravings on Killer\'s Guns


By the way Nazism is on the left (National Socialism) and many articles are providing false information that "right wing extremists" are the cause of racial problems.



In the U.S, the racist Klu Klux Klan are anti-semetic and are given titles that exposes their links with paganism such as 'Grand Wizard' or Imperial Wizard, a wizard is a male witch.

Additionally the wearing of robes is also known to take place during pagan rituals, and the gathering of persons together among the trees is also a common pagan ritual, for example the Celtic Druid priests.


Ku Klux Klan


Wizard


Let us pray in the nude and wear hooded robes in our cells, demand pagan prisoners


If you go down into the woods today...

I have seen those zealots attack our white brothers believers. Thank you for this reaffirming how every kindred is welcome to the body Christ.

 

[FireDragon76]

FWIW, there is nothing in northern European paganism that is particularly racist.

If you want to know the roots of racism in the US and the western world, look to Pope Alexander VI's papal bull in 1493 that declared all pagan lands were open for exploitation, and its peoples fit for subjugation.

 

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FWIW, there is nothing in northern European paganism that is particularly racist.

If you want to know the roots of racism in the US and the western world, look to Pope Alexander VI's papal bull in 1493 that declared all pagan lands were open for exploitation, and its peoples fit for subjugation.

..."Together, Odinism and Asatru constitute the largest non-Christian religion in Iceland, officially recognized by Norway, Sweden, and Denmark. It's gaining steam in America, too, where Thor's Hammer is now allowed to be carved onto military gravestones and prisoners are granted special accommodations to carry out rituals.


But there's a dark side, too. "When I see the word Odinist, the red flags go off," says Joshua Rood, an expert on Old Norse Religion at the University of Iceland. "A lot of people who don't know any better, usually very new people, will consider themselves Odinists because they like Odin, they think he's cool. But they have no idea they're referring to themselves by a term that's connected to a movement that's racist.


To understand Odinism—and the way that it became a religion entangled with racism, exclusion, and American prison culture—you need to start with the original Scandinavian pagans. These groups worshipped Norse gods through songs and ceremonies, celebrating the mythology of gods like Thor and Odin, who went by many names. Between the 8th and 12th centuries AD, Christians "explained" to the heathens about the One True God, and so-long went paganism, until the mid-1800s, when a nationalistic climate led Scandinavian countries to rediscover their own history. They found something to call their own—Norse Gods—and rebirthed the religion into Germanic neopaganism.


In 1936, Australian author Alexander Rud Mills established the First Anglecyn Church of Odin, which claimed Odinism as "the indigenous religion of the northern European people." In his opening liturgical text, he mentioned "the fall from grace of the White Race by being untrue to the spirit of their forefathers." Else Christensen, a Danish woman, was struck by the work. After WWII, Christensen and her husband Alex emigrated to Canada and founded the Odinist Study Group after WWII with the claim that "religion is in our genes." After Alex's death in 1971, she moved to the United States and published The Odinist newsletter."

How a Thor-Worshipping Religion Turned Racist

 

[FireDragon76]

How a Thor-Worshipping Religion Turned Racist

Asatru isn't inherently racist, even if some adherents are. Merely having a religion associated with an ethnicity in its origins doesn't mean it's racist. If that were the case, arguendo, then Judaism and Christianity both would also be racist, since they had their origins with a particular ethnic group (Jews).

Rebirth of paganism wasn't merely about nationalism (which could just as easily go hand-in-hand with forms of Christianity, such as German "Positive Christianity"), but also the decline of Christianity as a normative worldview. It is libelous to imply that every non-Christian white person out there who adheres to a pagan or non-Christian religion does so for racist reasons, or is inclined to racism. It simply isn't true.

In the US you are far more likely to find racist whites that claim to be Christian than you are to find particularly racist pagans.

 

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Asatru isn't inherently racist, even if some adherents are. Merely having a religion associated with an ethnicity in its origins doesn't mean it's racist. If that were the case, arguendo, then Judaism and Christianity both would also be racist, since they had their origins with a particular ethnic group (Jews).

Rebirth of paganism wasn't merely about nationalism (which could just as easily go hand-in-hand with forms of Christianity, such as German "Positive Christianity"), but also the decline of Christianity as a normative worldview. It is libelous to imply that every non-Christian white person out there who adheres to a pagan or non-Christian religion does so for racist reasons, or is inclined to racism. It simply isn't true.

In the US you are far more likely to find racist whites that claim to be Christian than you are to find particularly racist pagans.

Positive Christianity is not Christianity at all. Without Jesus Christ being acknowledged as the only son of God, that is a false religion. Without Jesus Christ there is no Christianity


Hanns Kerrl a Nazi politician"...The party [Kerri said] stands on the basis of Positive Christianity, and Positive Christianity is National Socialism . . . National Socialism is the doing of God’s will . . . God’s will reveals itself in German blood ... Dr. Zoell- ner and Count Galen [the Catholic bishop of Muenster] have tried to make clear to me that Christianity consists in faith in Christ as the Son of God. That makes me laugh . . . No, Christianity is not dependent upon the Apostle’s Creed . . . True Christianity is represented by the party, and the German people are now called by the party and especially by the Fuehrer to a real Christianity . . . The Fuehrer is the herald of a new revelation."

Shirer, William L. (1960). The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany. London: Secker & Warburg.


Hitler essentially was trying to take the place of Jesus Christ.

German Christian, any of the Protestants who attempted to subordinate church policy to the political initiatives of the German Nazi Party. The German Christians’ Faith Movement, organized in 1932, was nationalistic and so anti-Semitic that extremists wished to repudiate the Old Testament (Hebrew Bible) and the Pauline Letters because of their Jewish authorship. The movement acceded to the Nazi definition of a Jew based on the religion of his or her grandparents and to the racist principles embodied in the Nürnberg Laws of 1935. Thus, many practicing Christians whose families had converted a generation before were defined as Jews and excluded from the church.

German Christian


The Book "Gods of the Blood: The Pagan Revival and White Separatism" explains:


"Racist paganism is a thriving but understudied element of the American religious and cultural landscape. Gods of the Blood is the first in-depth survey of the people, ideologies, and practices that make up this fragmented yet increasingly radical and militant milieu. Over a five-year period during the 1990s Mattias Gardell observed and participated in pagan ceremonies and interviewed pagan activists across the United States. His unprecedented entree into this previously obscure realm is the basis for this firsthand account of the proliferating web of organizations and belief systems combining pre-Christian pagan mythologies with Aryan separatism.

Gardell outlines the historical development of the different strands of racist paganism—including Wotanism, Odinism and Darkside Asatrú—and situates them on the spectrum of pagan belief ranging from Wicca and goddess worship to Satanism. Gods of the Blood details the trends that have converged to fuel militant paganism in the United States: anti-government sentiments inflamed by such events as Ruby Ridge and Waco, the rise of the white power music industry (including whitenoise, dark ambient, and hatecore), the extraordinary reach of modern communications technologies, and feelings of economic and cultural marginalization in the face of globalization and increasing racial and ethnic diversity of the American population.

Gardell elucidates how racist pagan beliefs are formed out of various combinations of conspiracy theories, anti-Semitism, warrior ideology, populism, beliefs in racial separatism, Klandom, skinhead culture, and tenets of national socialism. He shows how these convictions are further animated by an array of thought selectively derived from thinkers including Nietzche, historian Oswald Spengler, Carl Jung, and racist mystics.

Scrupulously attentive to the complexities of racist paganism as it is lived and practiced, Gods of the Blood is a fascinating, disturbing, and important portrait of the virulent undercurrents of certain kinds of violence in America today.[/QUOTE]


Gods of the Blood: The Pagan Revival and White Separatism

 

[FireDragon76]

Positive Christianity is not Christianity at all. Without Jesus Christ being acknowledged as the only son of God, that is a false religion. Without Jesus Christ there is no Christianity


Hanns Kerrl a Nazi politician"...The party [Kerri said] stands on the basis of Positive Christianity, and Positive Christianity is National Socialism . . . National Socialism is the doing of God’s will . . . God’s will reveals itself in German blood ... Dr. Zoell- ner and Count Galen [the Catholic bishop of Muenster] have tried to make clear to me that Christianity consists in faith in Christ as the Son of God. That makes me laugh . . . No, Christianity is not dependent upon the Apostle’s Creed . . . True Christianity is represented by the party, and the German people are now called by the party and especially by the Fuehrer to a real Christianity . . . The Fuehrer is the herald of a new revelation."

Shirer, William L. (1960). The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany. London: Secker & Warburg.


Hitler essentially was trying to take the place of Jesus Christ.




German Christian


The Book "Gods of the Blood: The Pagan Revival and White Separatism" explains:


"Racist paganism is a thriving but understudied element of the American religious and cultural landscape. Gods of the Blood is the first in-depth survey of the people, ideologies, and practices that make up this fragmented yet increasingly radical and militant milieu. Over a five-year period during the 1990s Mattias Gardell observed and participated in pagan ceremonies and interviewed pagan activists across the United States. His unprecedented entree into this previously obscure realm is the basis for this firsthand account of the proliferating web of organizations and belief systems combining pre-Christian pagan mythologies with Aryan separatism.

Gardell outlines the historical development of the different strands of racist paganism—including Wotanism, Odinism and Darkside Asatrú—and situates them on the spectrum of pagan belief ranging from Wicca and goddess worship to Satanism. Gods of the Blood details the trends that have converged to fuel militant paganism in the United States: anti-government sentiments inflamed by such events as Ruby Ridge and Waco, the rise of the white power music industry (including whitenoise, dark ambient, and hatecore), the extraordinary reach of modern communications technologies, and feelings of economic and cultural marginalization in the face of globalization and increasing racial and ethnic diversity of the American population.

Gardell elucidates how racist pagan beliefs are formed out of various combinations of conspiracy theories, anti-Semitism, warrior ideology, populism, beliefs in racial separatism, Klandom, skinhead culture, and tenets of national socialism. He shows how these convictions are further animated by an array of thought selectively derived from thinkers including Nietzche, historian Oswald Spengler, Carl Jung, and racist mystics.

Scrupulously attentive to the complexities of racist paganism as it is lived and practiced, Gods of the Blood is a fascinating, disturbing, and important portrait of the virulent undercurrents of certain kinds of violence in America today.

Gods of the Blood: The Pagan Revival and White Separatism[/QUOTE]

Pagans are like anybody else, there are those that are racist and those that are not. There is nothing essential about being a pagan that requires one to be racist.