Christian Farmers let's make predictions from the account of Noah

[NannaNae]

In Gen We have this account .

Gen 7:2
Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.

Gen 7:3
Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.


thus 7 "types " or 'breeds' of cattle , sheep etc




Gen 7:14
They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort ( after their kind).

Gen 7:15
And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.

Gen 7:16
And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the LORD shut him in.

then later it says

Gen 8:20
¶
And Noah builded an altar unto the LORD; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.

so he sacrificed One of the 7
kinds of sheep , goat, cattle, fowl, so one in 7 "Types "/ or breeds is missing, and saved for the 7thday of rest , the Millennium Rest. which will have the Best of the
" types " the the favorites and the most perfect, would have been sacrificed. and thus saved for His age.



Gen 8:21
And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

I give farmers the right to use their imaginations ... but only from your knowledge of these animals and what might be possible and what might be missing from current
" type".


so my question is what traits are missing that might be found in the 7th breed offered to the lord after the flood ?
what
"type"/ breed is missing and what traits are missing ? from current breeds and would make the greatest of all types of cattle, sheep , goats, chickens all kind of fowl for THE time of HIS Rest.. they would take less work and be easily gleaned from(milked ) plucked or ?????????? etc and which " types "/ breeds would be easiest to deal with and why . and may even be found in the fossil records ( in giant form of course,,,,) but we don't' know if we will be in giant or in midget form during the millennium but make your predictions that everything will be current scale in that they will all be at the same scale as us .




Gen 8:22
While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

remembering there will be summer winter fall and spring until the 8thday. so make your predictions by what you know is missing from current cattle types and traits . they may have even found bones of these types and in giant form we will only guess what they were like in temperament and qualities maybe even by traits and what is missing in current breeds.


Please only Farmers who have raised / bred , bought and sold some kind of cattle the more types the better.. or and have knowledge of cattle or sheep or goats or chickens or ??? by knowing them ... NOT just read a book about them, that don't count..
people who have raised any kind of clean animals that you really have knowledge of can predict what " type " is missing from what " type " is here!
and or what traits of this missing breed and would be great to have .

I / we our family as children of God and children of his creation.. have in many years raised 3 of the color Guinese , and native quail .
registered and unregistered
chickens,, sheep (1 hair and 4 breeds wool) , goats (4 milk and 1 meat , 1 mini milk ). and lots of unclean things from parrots and bunnies and pigs 3 types , Horses and registered and not.,. just lots and lots of stuff, plant and animal .
I was a 4h leader for years as kids grew up and know lots about all breeds of farm stock even if I didn't raise it personally I probably have helped kids help them birth , prepared it for show and or provided goat milk to save it's calfs you name it 1I /we probably had personal contact with it ..Now my father raised Hereford ( I think polled ) and did when he was a child.. for awhile but I wasn't around much then though I did have to come help at vaccination and castration times to help him out . I just don't know enough about cows and their temperaments and qualities to know what traits could be but are just is missing.



I wish I new more about cows.. I have by observation have located at least 4 maybe 5 of the 6 breeds of cattle.. but I don't know enough about their traits and temperaments to predict a 7th and missing type that would be awesome in his millennium ....

any Farmers want to try?

anyway I will post later and predict both what the Millennium sheep and goats will be like I know lots of these from experience...
any others want to try to guess ? what the millennial animals sacrificed will be like in the 1000 years reign ?

 

[St_Worm2]

Hi NN, and Merry Christmas ..

Genesis 7:2-3 tells us that the Lord commanded that seven pairs of every kind of clean animal and bird be brought onto the ark. The extra pairs of clean animals/birds were intended to cover the immediate sacrificial needs of Noah and his family. Therefore, no animals are missing.

--David

 

[NannaNae]

I think the 7th one is for the Sabbath.
do you really understand what a breed is to figure out what is missing ?
so tell us why you think you know that ?
there is breed type that is missing .

so if you don't really know what a breed / type line is .
. then tell us what traits might be possible that aren't here of any of the clean animals ?

I mean there is Dark Purple/ Blue Guinese hens and and dark purple / blue parrots why not chickens?
I mean a feather is a feather the genetics for a feather is a feather right ?

I found some missing traits in both goats and sheep.
I am just waiting for any one who knows anything about these animals to make a good guess.
because there is missing animals types .

 

[NannaNae]

Apologetics Press - How Many Animals of Each Kind did Noah Take into the Ark?
if it was 7animals or 7 pairs the 7th or the 7th pair was sacrificed and that is missing.
so in a few days after we get some people making some real educated guess I will up my prediction of both a missing male and female line of both sheep and goats.

so predict.... or your prediction is nothing is missing.
fine thank you.. next !

 

[St_Worm2]

Hi NN, I do not know much about breeds. I know there are like 800 recognized breeds/kinds? of cows, for instance, so I am assuming there are more breeds/kinds? today than there were back in the days of Noah. (are "breeds" and "kinds" the same thing?)

As far as which animals entered the ark, we only have the Bible to go on, and of the "clean" animals, the Bible tells us that 7 pairs of each climbed on board. I'll have to look into it a bit more closely, but if Holsteins and Jerseys both happened to be around back then, I would then assume that 7 pairs of Jerseys and 7 pairs of Holsteins entered the ark.

Do you think something else happened instead ..

Thanks!

Yours and His,
David

Merry Christmas .. ​

 

[NannaNae]

HI should I call you s8t . or Worm2..

so Worm tell me how many" Types" of sheep are here ?
So God told Noah to put types on the boat?
what mans idea of breed is is very different than God ideas of Type .
Hair Sheep Breeds - Breeds of Livestock
then add probably Soay sheep as a close relative to Barbados .

so how many 'types' does that page really represent By God's definition not mans ? you got a guess?
anyone else want to guess ?
I will give folks some time to sort it out and study each of those breeds to tell us what is really there ?
when folks start getting close I will jump in and they and I can discuss the real possibilities . of what had to go into the ark to create that page of animals.

 

[St_Worm2]

HI should I call you s8t . or Worm2..

Worm is ok, so is David. Of course, my greatest hope is that "saint" actually works too .. (John 5:24). You continue:

so Worm tell me how many" Types" of sheep are here ?
So God told Noah to put types on the boat?
what mans idea of breed is is very different than God ideas of Type .
Hair Sheep Breeds - Breeds of Livestock
then add probably Soay sheep as a close relative to Barbados .

so how many 'types' does that page really represent By God's definition not mans ? you got a guess?

Guesses are fine, as long as we don't begin to believe they are more than that .. (Deuteronomy 29:29). As for what God did back then, this is what He told Noah:

“Of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female. Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.....Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth." Genesis 6:19-20; 7:2-3​

What can we know of "kinds", or "types", or "breeds" from the Biblical account? "Of every living thing of all flesh" seems pretty inclusive, yes? If it means something else, I think I will remain satisfied for now that what God wanted (and what we needed) to survive the Flood, did! (unless you know the Bible gives us more detail about all this in other passages, of course .. ) ... or I am totally missing something (which happens to me all the time .. )

Here is a quote from Dr. John MacArthur concerning the animals and the ark.

There are less than 18,000 species living on earth today. This number may have been doubled to allow for now extinct creatures. With two of each, a total of 72,000 creatures is reasonable as indicated in the note on 6:15, 16; the cubic space could hold 125,000 sheep, and since the average size of land animals is less than a sheep, perhaps less than 60 percent of the space was used. The very large animals were surely represented by young. There was ample room also for the one million species of insects, as well as food for a year for everyone.​

Let me know what you think (about MacArthur's comments and the rest)! And PLEASE, let me know if I am missing something here ..

Thanks!!

Yours and His,
David

“The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things
revealed belong to us and to our sons forever, that
we may observe all the words of this law."
Deuteronomy 29:29​

 

[NannaNae]

'Let me know what you think (about MacArthur's comments and the rest)! And PLEASE, let me know if I am missing something here ..'

what breeds and types ,

the first thing I want you to notice is that all the breeds of hairless sheep are identified by location.
now science-tism wants everyone to believe these evolved differently over long periods of time in different locations.. now instead maybe think about men in boats dropping batches of unknown different Types unto different islands. wouldn't the out come of unknown of combined types be due only to what was really dropped off and what was brought there since ?
now days
like registered ' breeds' is what mankind thinks he is doing to what God 'kind' or types.

I will use the word 'breed' for reproduction not 'breed' as a word for TYPE/ kind .
I will use Reg/Breeds ( with Caps) as things man has done thinking he has improved on God's designs .

if types of sheep were very like types of parrots and each type/ kind one is just as unique and identifiable as it is in parrots and yes all parrots can inner breed. if you have any idea what you are looking for you can extract a type/kind of sheep from the other type/ or kinds in even the same herd which is already in a blended or narrower genetic color or type because of other type working against the other types/ kinds so it's usable genetics get's smaller in the group but it is still a type/ kind and when allowed to it breeds truer to it's real kind/ strengths ....... and what if they breed / reproduce just as true as parrots even after being crossed with other type/ kinds? how many types of parrots are there ?

what

so everything that went into that boat was a kind that breeds true with it's proper match . a proper match being one where the true type is allowed fullest expression.

now in order to get a " improved breed " / Reg.breed that always breeds true , man has just found some of the main Y male line types and isolated the fe male lines and discard all female lines that do not create what they want it to be .





S8t ok what is macArther ?
and did you read my link describing what the bible does say about this issue?
of the 7 pairs / 7 types of each clean animal?

 

[NannaNae]

now everyone who wants too go back to the hairless sheep page I posted earlier and study whatever you need to study about each sheep in their locations and feed available at each location . Then tell us what was dropped off on each of those islands ( now are just locations but were once islands ) and or what type/kinds has been brought to that area since there was islands ?

noticing similarities of color patterns or body shapes and sizes to other
type/ kinds of sheep any where else in the world and of different hair types but same body types .. like fats butts/ junk in the trunk and long or fat tails , and or dark hair front ends w/white hair back ends. just white faces or black , face stripes , black bellies and or spots or?

now study them all really well.. and tell us how many or how few there are of types/kinds of male and female lines are there in those locations ?

and how many or few types of both male and females are needed to Create all those animals and you can add Soay sheep also ?

here is a clue
males usually are more about the paint the coating and the obvious stuff like being a recognized as a "sheep" and females are more about forms and size in a very general way.

 

[NannaNae]

1. DNA, The Ultimate Oopart!....Page 1

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3 Precious Gems in Junk DNA? .....PAGE 3


4. Encode Project Proves that Materialists Had Gotten Ignorance Down to a Science; Junk DNA is No More!

so the real question still remains where are the traits of the female lines in humans.. they haven't found it until they can tell you that there is only 4 distinct female clans types.. these can be adapted to different environments but they are exactly the same ladies same time and same clans and will throw the same type as their other clans other places with those same males... a sheep is a sheep ... it is always a sheep.... if it has a hairless dad or a hairy dad.. it is still a sheep and will breed to all sheep... and a mutt sheep can look like all pureblooded sheep by the third generation.

wanna take a guess where are the genes of a female?
because they are only "seeing " 90% or more is of the males contributions only in breeds of animals and in human dna that they chose to see and they chose to compare....these very few genes are all those which create
"race" and have little to nothing to do with function.
so where is the females ?

might I suggest we are the
" junk" scientist didn't like. and don't think are valuable enough to study.

so just like space they estimate they see only 3% of the matter in space and it might be that man has only chosen to observes 3 % of human dna and of that less than 4% is from traces of maybe only one or two female lines if they see a female line at all..

so so where is the female and where is the matter that matters?

if creation is a car.. the stuff the stuff naturalist see or chose to deal with or the stuff they think they see is only about about as much as the paint job of a car !

so is a red nova the same as a red Ferrari or a red dump truck ? they only see 2 or maybe 3% or less of what is there in all creation ...
they are missing everything that is under the hood and in the vehicle. Oh but they will can tell us how old it is and how fast it mutates.. but they haven't had a clue what they are looking at. their only intent has been to create clocks..
Time that tell the lies they want to tell.

so even if a good naturalist was a great guesser with only 3 or 4 % of matter that matters he might guess 25% of something in creation right.

but what 25% is right ? .. and if he is really lucky 75% of what he sees is going to be dead wrong.

so without the bible and with out recorded of eyewitnesses to history .... they are all liars.
and not even good liars..

 

[NannaNae]

1. DNA, The Ultimate Oopart!....Page 1

2. Will Darwinists Make the Same Mistake with RNA that They Made in Ignoring So-Called "Junk" DNA?

3 Precious Gems in Junk DNA? .....PAGE 3


4. Encode Project Proves that Materialists Had Gotten Ignorance Down to a Science; Junk DNA is No More!

so the real question still remains where are the traits of the female lines in humans.. they haven't found it until they can tell you that there is only 4 distinct female clans types.. these can be adapted to different environments but they are exactly the same ladies same time and same clans and will throw the same type as their other clans other places with those same males... a sheep is a sheep ... it is always a sheep.... if it has a hairless dad or a hairy dad.. it is still a sheep and will breed to all sheep... and a mutt sheep can look like all pureblooded sheep by the third generation.

wanna take a guess where are the genes of a female?
because they are only "seeing " 90% or more is of the males contributions only in breeds of animals and in human dna that they chose to see and they chose to compare....these very few genes are all those which create
"race" and have little to nothing to do with function.
so where is the females ?

might I suggest we are the
" junk" scientist didn't like. and don't think are valuable enough to study.

so just like space they estimate they see only 3% of the matter in space and it might be that man has only chosen to observes 3 % of human dna and of that less than 4% is from traces of maybe only one or two female lines if they see a female line at all..

so so where is the female and where is the matter that matters?

if creation is a car.. the stuff the stuff naturalist see or chose to deal with or the stuff they think they see is only about about as much as the paint job of a car !

so is a red nova the same as a red Ferrari or a red dump truck ? they only see 2 or maybe 3% or less of what is there in all creation ...
they are missing everything that is under the hood and in the vehicle. Oh but they will can tell us how old it is and how fast it mutates.. but they haven't had a clue what they are looking at. their only intent has been to create clocks..
Time that tell the lies they want to tell.

so even if a good naturalist was a great guesser with only 3 or 4 % of matter that matters he might guess 25% of something in creation right.

but what 25% is right ? .. and if he is really lucky 75% of what he sees is going to be dead wrong.

so without the bible and with out records of eyewitnesses to history ....
they are are the liars making up myths
and not even good liars..