CHRISTIAN DAYCARE WORKERS FIRED FOR REFUSING TO CALL A LITTLE GIRL A BOY

bhsmte said:

IMO, your posts are difficult to read. You don't use paragraphs that would give continuity and flow to what you write and only broken up sentences.

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• A lawyer attacking a defendant’s character rather than addressing or questioning based on the case, e.g., in a case of theft pointing out the defendant’s level of poverty.
• A politician degrading another politician during a political campaign when asked about a specific policy, e.g. “Well, I think we need to look at the other candidate’s failures regarding this topic.”
• Responding in any debate with an attack on one’s personal beliefs.
• Using someone’s known background or beliefs to respond in a way such as “Of course you would say that, because you believe _____.”
• Stating that someone’s argument is incorrect because of her religious beliefs, such as, “Perhaps if you weren’t part of the religious group that you are, you would see this quite differently.”
• Demeaning a teacher’s decision on grading by insulting her intelligence, e.g., “Well, it’s not like you graduated from the best school, so I can see why you wouldn’t know how to properly grade a writing assignment.”
• Using racial slurs to demean a person of another race in an argument about a crime involving people of different racial backgrounds, such as, “People like you don’t understand what it’s like to be of my race so you blatantly have no right to make an argument about this situation.”
• Generalizing views of a political party as an insulting argument to an individual who is a member of a different party, e.g., “Well, it’s pretty obvious that your political party doesn’t know how to be fiscally responsible, so I wouldn’t expect you to, either.”
• Stating that one’s age precludes him from being able to make an intelligent or meaningful argument, such as, “You are clearly just too young to understand.”
• Asserting that someone’s geographical location prevents him from being able to make a clear judgment, such as, “You’ve only ever lived in an urban environment. The issues of those in other areas is clearly beyond you.”
• Using gender as a means to devalue an argument from an opposing gender, e.g., “This is a female issue. As a man, how can you have an opinion about this?”
• Stating that the ethnicity of the opposing individual keeps him from formulating a valuable opinion, e.g., “You are from the United States, so you could never understand what it’s like to live in a country like that.”
• Using someone’s educational level as a means to exploit and degrade the opposer’s argument, such as, “You didn’t even finish high school - how could you possibly know about this?”
• Relying on socioeconomic status as a means to undermine an opposing individual’s opinion, such as, “You wouldn’t understand since you have never had to struggle."

AHH who-stole-my-name said:

IF you want to dismiss me and my quote/unquote terminology as you call it that's fine with me. I'm not here to interfere with your opinion of the quality of your opinion.

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gradyll said:

your opinion is not science.

I have refrained from my own opinion to quote professionals in the field.

others are quoting off topic, and attacking personal character.

which is usual.

let me help you out here:

I will post a list of adhominems, find the one you are using, and stop doing it.

Ad hominem and abusive Ad hominem:

do you recognize any of these fallacies?:

• A lawyer attacking a defendant’s character rather than addressing or questioning based on the case, e.g., in a case of theft pointing out the defendant’s level of poverty.
• A politician degrading another politician during a political campaign when asked about a specific policy, e.g. “Well, I think we need to look at the other candidate’s failures regarding this topic.”
• Responding in any debate with an attack on one’s personal beliefs.
• Using someone’s known background or beliefs to respond in a way such as “Of course you would say that, because you believe _____.”
• Stating that someone’s argument is incorrect because of her religious beliefs, such as, “Perhaps if you weren’t part of the religious group that you are, you would see this quite differently.”
• Demeaning a teacher’s decision on grading by insulting her intelligence, e.g., “Well, it’s not like you graduated from the best school, so I can see why you wouldn’t know how to properly grade a writing assignment.”
• Using racial slurs to demean a person of another race in an argument about a crime involving people of different racial backgrounds, such as, “People like you don’t understand what it’s like to be of my race so you blatantly have no right to make an argument about this situation.”
• Generalizing views of a political party as an insulting argument to an individual who is a member of a different party, e.g., “Well, it’s pretty obvious that your political party doesn’t know how to be fiscally responsible, so I wouldn’t expect you to, either.”
• Stating that one’s age precludes him from being able to make an intelligent or meaningful argument, such as, “You are clearly just too young to understand.”
• Asserting that someone’s geographical location prevents him from being able to make a clear judgment, such as, “You’ve only ever lived in an urban environment. The issues of those in other areas is clearly beyond you.”
• Using gender as a means to devalue an argument from an opposing gender, e.g., “This is a female issue. As a man, how can you have an opinion about this?”
• Stating that the ethnicity of the opposing individual keeps him from formulating a valuable opinion, e.g., “You are from the United States, so you could never understand what it’s like to live in a country like that.”
• Using someone’s educational level as a means to exploit and degrade the opposer’s argument, such as, “You didn’t even finish high school - how could you possibly know about this?”
• Relying on socioeconomic status as a means to undermine an opposing individual’s opinion, such as, “You wouldn’t understand since you have never had to struggle."

above examples from :

http://examples.yourdictionary.com/ad-hominem-examples.html

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• A lawyer attacking a defendant’s character rather than addressing or questioning based on the case, e.g., in a case of theft pointing out the defendant’s level of poverty.
• A politician degrading another politician during a political campaign when asked about a specific policy, e.g. “Well, I think we need to look at the other candidate’s failures regarding this topic.”
• Responding in any debate with an attack on one’s personal beliefs.
• Using someone’s known background or beliefs to respond in a way such as “Of course you would say that, because you believe _____.”
• Stating that someone’s argument is incorrect because of her religious beliefs, such as, “Perhaps if you weren’t part of the religious group that you are, you would see this quite differently.”
• Demeaning a teacher’s decision on grading by insulting her intelligence, e.g., “Well, it’s not like you graduated from the best school, so I can see why you wouldn’t know how to properly grade a writing assignment.”
• Using racial slurs to demean a person of another race in an argument about a crime involving people of different racial backgrounds, such as, “People like you don’t understand what it’s like to be of my race so you blatantly have no right to make an argument about this situation.”
• Generalizing views of a political party as an insulting argument to an individual who is a member of a different party, e.g., “Well, it’s pretty obvious that your political party doesn’t know how to be fiscally responsible, so I wouldn’t expect you to, either.”
• Stating that one’s age precludes him from being able to make an intelligent or meaningful argument, such as, “You are clearly just too young to understand.”
• Asserting that someone’s geographical location prevents him from being able to make a clear judgment, such as, “You’ve only ever lived in an urban environment. The issues of those in other areas is clearly beyond you.”
• Using gender as a means to devalue an argument from an opposing gender, e.g., “This is a female issue. As a man, how can you have an opinion about this?”
• Stating that the ethnicity of the opposing individual keeps him from formulating a valuable opinion, e.g., “You are from the United States, so you could never understand what it’s like to live in a country like that.”
• Using someone’s educational level as a means to exploit and degrade the opposer’s argument, such as, “You didn’t even finish high school - how could you possibly know about this?”
• Relying on socioeconomic status as a means to undermine an opposing individual’s opinion, such as, “You wouldn’t understand since you have never had to struggle."

bhsmte said:

My opinion is not science??????????????????????????????????????????

Did I claim it was science?

I gave you a subjective interpretation of your posts being difficult to read and told you why. And by the way, I am not the only one who has made this observation. If you can, please feel free to connect my comments, to any of the fallacies you listed.

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gradyll said:

lets go ahead and post a work on fallacy for all of us.

that way we can level the playing field.

it's always easy to make fun of others and pick and poke, but if we don't use fallacy, we typically are down to the nitty gritty facts of the matter, unemotional, just raw science.

and I have found this is the best way to debate.

many here are attacking my character and my views but don't quote fact, they are even going as far as attacking grammar.

now we can have every athiest in a group say someone has bad grammar for example, that would be an appeal to the populus.

or popular oppinion fallacy or band wagon fallacy .

you simply have to debate logically and with no emotions.

if you don't you will be in for ride of anger, as people will bait you to get angry at them.

it's bait and switch fallacy.

so anyway, I will see if I can attach a fallacy document, and let's hit above the belt if we are to fight at all.

but better we don't fight.

and when people take off the fallacy generally people don't get their fealings hurt as bad.

so it's all around a better way of doing it.

here are some attack fallacies:

Ad hominem and abusive Ad hominem:

do you recognize any of these fallacies?:

• A lawyer attacking a defendant’s character rather than addressing or questioning based on the case, e.g., in a case of theft pointing out the defendant’s level of poverty.
• A politician degrading another politician during a political campaign when asked about a specific policy, e.g. “Well, I think we need to look at the other candidate’s failures regarding this topic.”
• Responding in any debate with an attack on one’s personal beliefs.
• Using someone’s known background or beliefs to respond in a way such as “Of course you would say that, because you believe _____.”
• Stating that someone’s argument is incorrect because of her religious beliefs, such as, “Perhaps if you weren’t part of the religious group that you are, you would see this quite differently.”
• Demeaning a teacher’s decision on grading by insulting her intelligence, e.g., “Well, it’s not like you graduated from the best school, so I can see why you wouldn’t know how to properly grade a writing assignment.”
• Using racial slurs to demean a person of another race in an argument about a crime involving people of different racial backgrounds, such as, “People like you don’t understand what it’s like to be of my race so you blatantly have no right to make an argument about this situation.”
• Generalizing views of a political party as an insulting argument to an individual who is a member of a different party, e.g., “Well, it’s pretty obvious that your political party doesn’t know how to be fiscally responsible, so I wouldn’t expect you to, either.”
• Stating that one’s age precludes him from being able to make an intelligent or meaningful argument, such as, “You are clearly just too young to understand.”
• Asserting that someone’s geographical location prevents him from being able to make a clear judgment, such as, “You’ve only ever lived in an urban environment. The issues of those in other areas is clearly beyond you.”
• Using gender as a means to devalue an argument from an opposing gender, e.g., “This is a female issue. As a man, how can you have an opinion about this?”
• Stating that the ethnicity of the opposing individual keeps him from formulating a valuable opinion, e.g., “You are from the United States, so you could never understand what it’s like to live in a country like that.”
• Using someone’s educational level as a means to exploit and degrade the opposer’s argument, such as, “You didn’t even finish high school - how could you possibly know about this?”
• Relying on socioeconomic status as a means to undermine an opposing individual’s opinion, such as, “You wouldn’t understand since you have never had to struggle."

above examples from :

http://examples.yourdictionary.com/ad-hominem-examples.html

this is a quote from a report I did on fallacy which can be found here:

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gradyll said:

your opinion is not science.

I am keeping my posts to the scientific, not doing the IMO thing.

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gradyll said:

like I mentioned I typically refrain from my own oppinion and quote professionals.

you have not done so.

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gradyll said:

your opinion is not science.

I am keeping my posts to the scientific, not doing the IMO thing.

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bhsmte said:

Understanding one's posts, who claims to be using science, tends to factor into any discussion.

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bhsmte said:

Making comments about your posts being difficult to comprehend is attacking your character?

Should we just ignore then, that we have difficulty with comprehending your posts?

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bhsmte said:

Understanding one's posts, who claims to be using science, tends to factor into any discussion.

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AHH who-stole-my-name said:

You didn't quote anyone. At the most you posted links to which I provided a link of my own, which you have yet to comment on

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AHH who-stole-my-name said:

My friend, I've made up my mind that this person is not worth debating.

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sahjimira said:

Good will be called evil and evil will be called good

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AHH who-stole-my-name said:

Man, I just get tired of people who Try to sound like they are knowable about something by using as many words as they can to say absolutely nothing. I call it word salad and It simply isn't worth my time engaging these people.

What is mind blowing is they run to the same science they run from to argue Evolution, when they think it will help their argument. Then denounce any links you bring up as if they were qualified to make that analysis.

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Tallguy88 said:

CHRISTIAN DAYCARE WORKERS FIRED FOR REFUSING TO CALL A LITTLE GIRL A BOY



http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015...e-worker-fired-refusing-call-little-girl-boy/

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ChristsSoldier115 said:

If you can't follow company policy you get fired. If you don't agree with policy changes then quit. Pretty simple. I bet they signed the dotted line agreeing to that.

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gradyll said:

but say for example you wear a religious hat to work every day, and company policy requires you to comb your hair nicely for office duty.

you can file a complaint with the EEOC, and have the goverment sue them.

I have seen it many times.

religious descrimination.

I remember hobby lobby stating religious invocations related to having insurance claims for morning after pill.

again, company policy is not always right, in the case of hobby lobby they sued obama and won.

other situations where obama administ. sues against equal opportunity relating to religious descriminiation.

it happens all the time.

call the EEOC if you think you were fired for a religious reason.

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gradyll said:

so one who defends the devices of the enemy against devices of God such as verses that state that active homosexuals are not bound for heaven, (as all sin is sin, even the politically correct ones).

one must repent of all known sin, including fornication in general and homosexuality if one should see grace.

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jenny1972 said:

if a child is transgender i have never heard of a child under 12 deciding they are trans this is coming from the parents and they are wanting this she is only 6 years old .

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