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secretdawn

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Here is the situation: My best friend is moving in with one of her close friends, J. (please let's not discuss the men and women living together thing...it is platonic) J's ex and he got back together and she is telling him he has to quit drinking (not the question either) and she will stop smoking pot. They aren't doing this cause they are trying to be better Christians, they as far as I know aren't christian...they are doing it cause they think the other has a problem with it. Ok so here is the dilemma:
When the girl got high, she was honest (good), and then they made a deal that he could drink (means get drunk, not have a beer). To me this sounds wrong and unhealthy...my best friend thinks it is right...well it is fair I guess, but what is the difference between this and saying, well I cheated on you so you can cheat on me. I need a way to express this so they understand what they are doing is self-destructive (the deal not drinking or smoking) without bringing God up. I know them well enough that they will blow me off if I bring it up. But, I also believe this is wrong whether you are christian or not, it just doesn't work.
 

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secretdawn said:
Here is the situation: My best friend is moving in with one of her close friends, J. (please let's not discuss the men and women living together thing...it is platonic) J's ex and he got back together and she is telling him he has to quit drinking (not the question either) and she will stop smoking pot. They aren't doing this cause they are trying to be better Christians, they as far as I know aren't christian...they are doing it cause they think the other has a problem with it. Ok so here is the dilemma:
When the girl got high, she was honest (good), and then they made a deal that he could drink (means get drunk, not have a beer). To me this sounds wrong and unhealthy...my best friend thinks it is right...well it is fair I guess, but what is the difference between this and saying, well I cheated on you so you can cheat on me. I need a way to express this so they understand what they are doing is self-destructive (the deal not drinking or smoking) without bringing God up. I know them well enough that they will blow me off if I bring it up. But, I also believe this is wrong whether you are christian or not, it just doesn't work.

I think you answer yourself:

...but what is the difference between this and saying, well I cheated on you so you can cheat on me.

Two wrongs don't make a right.
 
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secretdawn said:
Here is the situation: My best friend is moving in with one of her close friends, J. (please let's not discuss the men and women living together thing...it is platonic) J's ex and he got back together and she is telling him he has to quit drinking (not the question either) and she will stop smoking pot. They aren't doing this cause they are trying to be better Christians, they as far as I know aren't christian...they are doing it cause they think the other has a problem with it. Ok so here is the dilemma:
When the girl got high, she was honest (good), and then they made a deal that he could drink (means get drunk, not have a beer). To me this sounds wrong and unhealthy...my best friend thinks it is right...well it is fair I guess, but what is the difference between this and saying, well I cheated on you so you can cheat on me. I need a way to express this so they understand what they are doing is self-destructive (the deal not drinking or smoking) without bringing God up. I know them well enough that they will blow me off if I bring it up. But, I also believe this is wrong whether you are christian or not, it just doesn't work.

in my opinion, pray hard for them. most people who are wrong don't see that they are wrong and if they do, they don't want to admit they are wrong. just keep them in your prayers and maybe try to show them that there are better things to do than drink and smoke up. trust me i know, i used to. then i found god and i have better things to do. these things are done because the people are unhappy. maybe they need to find happiness. do you witness to them often? or do they reject that?
 
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godpraisinchic said:
in my opinion, pray hard for them. most people who are wrong don't see that they are wrong and if they do, they don't want to admit they are wrong. just keep them in your prayers and maybe try to show them that there are better things to do than drink and smoke up. trust me i know, i used to. then i found god and i have better things to do. these things are done because the people are unhappy. maybe they need to find happiness. do you witness to them often? or do they reject that?
i don't witness to anyone, except my best friend, i think, not really sure what it is and i don't think i am ready for it...
 
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