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Why is it that Jack Van Impe is one of a few, if not the only preacher, who publicly has spoken out against Chrislam, a religion that combines Christian and Muslim beliefs? How is it possible to combine the two religions considering that Muslims believe in Jesus, but don't see Him as the Son of God nor see the Lord as Savior. Their God is named Allah and they see him as their supreme god, plus they see Jesus as only the Son of Mary. What are some similar beliefs that Muslims and Christians have other than the fact that they are monotheistic religions whose roots are in the Middle East?
 

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Just chiming in, Allah is the Arabic translation for God, so it's similar to the Hebrew "YHVH" and the Greek "Theos" just another way of saying. But of course the character behind the name is what matters, and that's all that differs from the OP. enjoy the forums ;)
 
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Muslims believe Jesus was born of a virgin, but not with God a his father but he was created more like Adam. The Quran says he was the only man to never commit a sin. He is called The Christ in the Quran. Muslims believe he was not killed on the cross but an angel took his place and his body was brought straight up to heaven with no physical death instead of a resurrection. English doesn't have a perfect translation but he is known in the Quran as "A word from God" similar to "The Word of God" The way I understand it, he was supposed to be the final prophet. But when people began to worship him, "Allah" sent another prophet to correct the people (Muhammed) Muhammed is known an the Seal of the prophets.

THese are all things I learned when I used to call myself a Muslim. However I am no scholar so I would take these things as here say but I believe it to be accurate.
 
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I would say the similarity would be mostly found in Non-trinitarian Christian views. Any kind of trinity would go against Islam. I can see a non-trinitarians christian and a Muslim believing that Jesus is the Christ and coming together on that premise alone to form a group.
 
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To answer your question (to the best of my ability), Jack Van Impe is one of the few preachers preaching, that is still holding to the sound doctrine of the Eternal Word of GOD, which I love him and commend him for that. The truth is the scriptures talk about this chrislam thing, and it will ultimately lead up to the anti-christ and the one world religion. And unfortunately a lot of these other "preachers" have already sold out, really most of them. But as for you and ayone else who is paying attention, stay in prayer and keep reading, because The Master will never leave you nor forsake you. Be blessed and shalom
 
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I would say mostly because it's a very small religion (with only 1500 adherents), predominantly practiced in Lagos, Nigeria. For the vast, overwhelming majority of people living in the United States, it's neither a potential mission field, nor a potential threat to their own faith. Therefore, its relevance to the people sitting in the pews is not very high. While it is laudable to try to help those in any false religion convert to Christianity, I don't think that a fascination with such a small religious group is particularly useful, unless the group is growing rapidly (which Chrislam is not), an active terror cell, or a horrendous hate group with a reputation or ability to cause harm far outstripping its small size (again, Chrislam is not either of those things).

Most pastors do and should focus on things more relevant to their congregation, like helping them to grow in their own faith life. When evangelism is mentioned, it should focus on what the congregation members can actually do, rather than simply on the evils of a small group entirely and likely perpetually isolated from everyone in the audience. A dictionary of syncretic religions could include Chrislam for educational purposes, but such a minority group should never be the sole focus of an entire sermon or homily, especially when there are other groups more relevant to the people hearing the message. I worry that the current fascination with Chrislam has more to do with a media-provoked fascination with Islam than with anything else, because as it stands, this group is only about three times the size of Nuwaubianism, and less than a fortieth the size of the Raelians, both New Religious Groups with beliefs much more destructive to Christianity, but many people don't even know that those two exist.
 
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Sooner or later, something like this is bound to develop, just as there are synthisizations of Islam with Hinduism and Voodoo with Christianity; but it's way to soon to worry about it.

I think Jack Van Impe was pointing to mainstream American Church leaders who say questionable things, like Joel Olsteen and the big guy behind 'Purpose Driven Life'. By this he was saying that 'Chrislam' has already permeated the American church. One American church leader even had a joint service in the Mosque in Damascus a few years back, I forget his name, but the one with the crystal Cathedral.
 
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I think Jack Van Impe was pointing to mainstream American Church leaders who say questionable things, like Joel Olsteen and the big guy behind 'Purpose Driven Life'. By this he was saying that 'Chrislam' has already permeated the American church. One American church leader even had a joint service in the Mosque in Damascus a few years back, I forget his name, but the one with the crystal Cathedral.

Yes. I had the feeling, when I first read this, that that might have been what Van Impe was getting at. IOW, it's an example of a trend towards synergistic religion in general, not that the Chrislam sect is a great threat in itself.
 
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Muslims believe Jesus was born of a virgin, but not with God a his father but he was created more like Adam. The Quran says he was the only man to never commit a sin. He is called The Christ in the Quran. Muslims believe
he was not killed on the cross but an angel took his place and his body was brought straight up to heaven with
no physical death instead of a resurrection. English doesn't have a perfect translation but he is known in the Quran as "A word from God" similar to "The Word of God" The way I understand it, he was supposed to be the final prophet. But when people began to worship him, "Allah" sent another prophet to correct the people (Muhammed) Muhammed is known an the Seal of the prophets.

THese are all things I learned when I used to call myself a Muslim. However I am no scholar so I would take these things as here say but I believe it to be accurate.
So they don't believe in the sacrificial death and resurrection of Jesus, which are the core of the gospel.

Therefore, they don't believe in salvation from the wrath of God on one's sin at the final judgment through grace by faith in Jesus Christ and his work on the cross (Ro 3:25).

Nothing else matters.

In the faith,
Clare
 
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So they don't believe in the sacrificial death and resurrection of Jesus, which are the core of the gospel.

Therefore, they don't believe in salvation from the wrath of God on one's sin at the final judgment through grace by faith in Jesus Christ and his work on the cross (Ro 3:25).

Nothing else matters.

In the faith,
Clare

They strip Jesus of his divinity and actually say that to call him the Son of God is a blasphemy because Allah would never take on human form. They do mention him in the koran, but only as the greatest of all prophets until Mohammed. The concept of the trinity is also a blashemy to muslims because, as they say, "there is no God but God" so three of them in any form is paganism.

Any Christian who views islam as a sister faith is just wrong and cannot really be a Christian.
 
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CS Lewis wrote in his book 'The Last Battle' about people who combined the two Gods into one and said they were the same.

His view was that this decpetion would happen just before the last battle. Maybe that's a sign for us today when we see these things 'Chrislam' happening...........

Maranatha!

Erchomai Kirie.

:)
 
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The believe they do that's what the religon is you see? Same God different details. There can be only one creator of everything when it all boils down to it. THey believe God is 1. Christ is Christ. Let us pray. I think it's just that simple. Using religion to come together rather than tear us apart. I think we could learn a thing or two from them.
 
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